Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I came across an issue last night when downloading the latest Chrysalis pack for my new G5 Quad.

When I tried it using Wayfarer it would get to various levels over 50% and then stop and crash the download. At first I thought it might be something to do with my new network card, but then I tried it with OWB and it ran faultlessly the first time with no issues. I also noticed that the transfer speeds were approximately double what they were with OWB.

I wasn't really bothered as I achieved what I wanted to achieve but I just wanted to highlight it as an area that might need some additional work at some point.

@ jacadcaps - stop it you're making me drool !!

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Awesome, looks great.

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Awesome!

All my stuff has been shipped to The Netherlands now, really need to get the PowerBook updated.

Coming soon to a browser near you

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Thanks AmigaDave for the push...I made my contribution!

IKE

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Totally agree! I sent Jacek $30 or $40 just a week or so ago, to help support his tireless work on this browser, as well as his other work on MorphOS itself. We should however not forget Piru and the rest of the team, who's work has made this new browser possible. I should be sending some support money (from my tiny retirement income) to the rest of the MorphOS Dev. Team, but I can't remember if there is a donate link for the whole team or not? I'll have to take a look.

Edit: If all of the users just donated even $5 or 5 Euros, it would add up to a significant amount that might pay Jacek for a day or two, at reasonable programmer rates.

Edit 2: I can't stress enough what a great monetary value MorphOS has been. It would take the research of someone like A. Wolf to count all of the free updates, and every free software addition that has been added to MorphOS, since it first went to a commercial product status.

[ Edited by amigadave 26.10.2020 - 15:26 ]

Thank you! 1.5 is just around the corner...

Got my paycheck and felt a need to support the projects from one of our most visible contributors of both OS/SDK and application developments! Jacadcaps, I believe you will do magic (and you already have(!)) with both Iris e-mail client and the Wayfarer web browser. Your work this far has been fantastic, jacadcaps! My contribution of only CAD $25 may not make a big difference, but if everyone does the same, then these little contributions could add up to something nice!

So, if you who are reading this feels jacadcaps efforts are worthy some financial reward, please don't hesitate to send some CAD $25 or whatever you can afford and consider being worthy, now that payday made you all temporarily rich again!

https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/wayfarerbrowser

:-)

@ jacadcaps - I thought you said you weren't doing the Web-Inspector in Wayfarer - I'm not complaining, I just wasn't expecting it - more great news for us to come . . . fantastic work as always it seems.

Yeah, it's in. I'm still tinkering with this though as it's not fully functional (plugins don't load - yet). On the good side, I've implemented this as user-scripts. That means that version 1.6 or 1.7 might be getting a full user scripts manager.

>> Eruda. Not a full blown WebInspector

> will you be able to build that into Wayfarer [...]?

Judging from the screenshot, it already is.

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Yes Wayfarer is displaying that in all its glory

@ jacadcaps - "Eruda. Not a full blown WebInspector ...]" - will you be able to build that into Wayfarer, or will it be a separate program that be run in conjunction with Wayfarer?

Wow, what a great browser. It’s the first time I have ever seen an Amiga like operating system browser actually display the HTML5 animation intro on DiscreetFX.com

See for yourself.

https://www.DiscreetFX.com

This is Eruda. Not a full blown WebInspector but this one is instead snappy enough to be usable on even the slower configurations.

@ jPV - I believe jacadcaps now has the solution to this problem, that I learned from an email conversation we had overnight - though he will probably add more on here in due course to explain it in more detail - he may have actually gone for a bit of sleep !! Is that a first, but I can hear a gentle BUZZ-ing noise in the background, oh, that's the fridge !!

@ jPV - The image you linked to is like the ones I sent him, but I think he worked it out from the config/prefs files I sent.

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I read backwards to see what the issue with tabs is now, and I seem to have the same issue on my hacky config, but also when booting a fresh system from the ISO file, so it doesn't seem to be about MUI configs either.

So maybe a screenshot helps to illustrate the issue :)

Here I booted from the 3.14 ISO, and extracted Wayfarer 1.4 to the ram disk and ran it from there. All settings are default, except that I changed colors from MUI Settings -> Groups -> Tab Groups -> Container/Title, and Layout to "tabs". I tried the same for OWB for comparison too, and you can see both cases in the screnshot below.

tab_colouring.png

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This is the gift that keeps on giving

@ jacadcaps - I've just sent you another email - check your SPAM again I suppose - I hope this helps to understand and fix the issues I am trying to get you to recreate to fix.

I appreciate your directness, and I'll try not to interpret your messages in any other way than that you are inquisitive and trying to help, though I have tried to do that anyway - it's always best to not get drawn into a situation that doesn't exist.

I was just looking at your previous image that you put in showing Wayfarer - showing Tabs coloured, but I am not sure if you have the "Tabs" actually shown as Rows / Buttons / Tabs.

If I set my MUI Settings to colour the "Tabs" as "Rows" which is what yours look like then they are coloured to what I select, BUT . . . ONLY 1 colour - not Highlighted for the Selected / Active one, but if I select "Tabs", which is what I have them selected as, then they only show as 1 colour - as you have them shown, and the Active one is not Highlighted with the pen(s) or image I select to Highlight / Activate it.

NewSense,

I wasn't trying to dismiss your problem, merely trying to illustrate that I do not understand what it is, exactly. I've only discovered the emails you've sent in the GMail spam folder (how did they end up there, only Google's algorithm guys would know).

Piru is right about the fact that some of those issues are very hard to reproduce - the downside of our system being extremely configurable.

Anyway, I'll respond to your emails soon.

@ Piru - What I meant was that Jacadcaps was showing OWB and Wayfarer on QEMU - not actual MorphOS Apple hardware - it was being run in an emulation environment, which might not display the same nuances of actual hardware.
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That's not the way I read that . . . it reads more like - "well it's working for me so it's only you who has the problem" maybe not in so many words, but that's the way it could be and was interpreted by me.

However, if I am supposed to take the inference as supposed to be interpreted the way you say it should - more data required . . . then I will as I have said already, I'll offer more data for jacadcaps to look through, but he will probably need some data from Thomas Igracki as well as we both have got this issue, whether anyone else has setup this "Active" Tab feature through MUI or not.

Having said that, if it works in OWB, then why is it not working in Wayfarer - I setup the "Active" Tab in OWB previously the same way I tried to set it up for Wayfarer - it still works in OWB, but it doesn't in Wayfarer. I would imagine that is what Thomas Igracki did as well, and it doesn't seem to work for him either, so surely it is something wrong in the way Wayfarer reacts with MUI and nothing to do with my or Thomas Igracki's MUI / Wayfarer prefs/configuration files - so overall I don't see what benefit they will be sending them, but I will send them if required, but I sent them yesterday as well, so they should be still valid for today, as neither of them are working within the hardware we are using (My system that this issue refers to is a MacMini currently, though I have a PowerBook, and a PowerMac G5 I can at some point try this issue out on to see if other hardware is OK with the Active Tab issue and it's just the MacMini that is affected by this problem - but I'm not at that point as yet . . . AFAIK.

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I can imagine that is a very difficult situation to be in, and I will do my utmost to assist you all in tracking down what is causing this issue, so I will supply what data files I can to assit you all, but my involvement is "barely scratching the surface" of this problem.

@NewSense
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There is no such thing as "QEMU version of OWB and Wayfarer". QEMU is just used to be able to test faster than with real hardware and on the go. The binaries are exactly the same regardless of if run on QEMU or real hardware.

Jacek is not disputing that there is an issue somewhere, he's just saying that he needs more information. It is often difficult to understand where some problem is arising from, especially since the system is so highly configurable. Custom MUI configurations especially can lead to unexpected behaviour and to issues that are not visible in more "typical" MUI configurations.

Hence we often need extremely detailed explanation of the configuration and settings being used. If the issue can't be reproduced by the developers it's very hard to try fix it.

> you are showing your QEMU version of OWB and Wayfarer

See comment #69 :-)

Is it possible to add Proxy support? It's not a perfect solution, but i could put an SSLStrip/raspberry in between and get some extra speedup.

OWB runs pretty fast that way.

Oh mate....really? I have just installed 1.3!! Thanks never sleeping man! :)