New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @ Intuition - Fixed that for the Grammar Stasi. ;)

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    I think that is cause for a complaint against you, or any other action that is thought necessary by a moderator and for you to make an apology to have made such a reprehensible reference to me as some form of GDR Secret Police, for inferring my simple comment and humour, merely for a correction of a misunderstanding of interpretation of punctuation and comment.

    I ask formally to have your remarks removed, an apology offered, and your mis-quote removed or re-edied to read as it did before, as it no longer is a quote if you change/edit it - is it?

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense wrote:
    Not forgetting Piru, jPV, [plus the others in the Dev. Team.



    Fixed that for the Grammar Stasi. ;)
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  • Caterpillar
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    xeno74
    Posts: 40 from 2020/6/8
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    Piru schrieb:
    The downloaded file is 100% okay (once it truly completes the download), it's just a ".tar" file then, instead of the expected ".tar.gz".

    Either way, this confusing behaviour is already fixed in the development build and will be released soon as part of the next Wayfarer release.


    Great! Thanks a lot!
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    I'll look into rebasing again after media playback is in.


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  • MorphOS Developer
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    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    How difficult (and how much work) is it to upgrade to a recent WebKit? How often does it make sense to do so? Twice a year? Once?


    I've already done a rebase 3 times during the development prior to the 1.0 release. I also have a work-in-progress branch that's rebased to a more recent tree. It's about 2-3 days to apply the diffs and work out the kinks required for the browser to run again. Some extra polish may take longer though. I'll look into rebasing again after media playback is in.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Zetec-s wrote: [... Definite speed increase on the G5 less obvious on the G4 but then that is probably understandable...]

    I'd have to say - using my MacMini that using Wayfarer is definitely a lot quicker/more responsive with v1.6 compared to v1.5
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    Zetec-s wrote: Thanks Jacadcaps for all the hard work on this really appreciated.

    Not forgetting Piru, jPV, [comma :-P] and others in the Dev. Team.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    I was just wondering about this feature: "Mid-2020 WebKit supports most modern websites".

    How difficult (and how much work) is it to upgrade to a recent WebKit? How often does it make sense to do so? Twice a year? Once?
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  • MorphOS Developer
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    xeno74 wrote:

    Wayfarer does not notice the end of the file and continues to download the file. It could be an issue with the X5000 onboard ethernet. Or Wayfarer can not calculate the size and download time because of an issue with the X5000 onboard ethernet. I can download the file with the Odyssey Web Browser so it isn't a big issue for me.


    As speculated by jPV the file does download just fine. It, however, is decompressed on the fly, and thus it appears as if it would "go past the end". This also throws off the ETA calculation.

    The downloaded file is 100% okay (once it truly completes the download), it's just a ".tar" file then, instead of the expected ".tar.gz".

    Either way, this confusing behaviour is already fixed in the development build and will be released soon as part of the next Wayfarer release.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Piru
    Posts: 626 from 2003/2/24
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    That "decompressing on the fly" behaviour will be fixed for the next release. Clearly it should be doing that for direct downloads.
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    Me too, I tried to download both Ram Disk and a PFS partition, and:

    linux-image-5.10-rc4-X1000_X5000.tar.gz.owb 52008170
    linux-image-5.10-rc4-X1000_X5000.tar.gz.wget 52008170
    linux-image-5.10-rc4-X1000_X5000.tar.gz.wayfarer 119756800

    And to clarify, you "can" download, but the resulting file isn't correct, it's much bigger than it should be.

    EDIT: it seems that Wayfarer unarchives the gz on the fly (but doesn't change the extension)! The resulting file is the same if/when you unpack the .gz downloaded with other programs. I don't think this is a desired way usually though, so maybe if it could be disabled for downloaded files even though it might do that for some web content or so?

    [ Edited by jPV 17.11.2020 - 16:40 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xeno74 wrote:
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    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Yes, both via clicking on the link and via context menu. Are you sure your download path is set correctly?


    Yes, I am sure. Wayfarer does not notice the end of the file and continues to download the file. It could be an issue with the X5000 onboard ethernet. Or Wayfarer can not calculate the size and download time because of an issue with the X5000 onboard ethernet. I can download the file with the Odyssey Web Browser so it isn't a big issue for me.




    I confirm this behaviour on my MorphOS system (PMac G5, MorphOS 3.14, Wayfarer 1.6, MorphOS System Partition with SFS)
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  • Caterpillar
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    xeno74
    Posts: 40 from 2020/6/8
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    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Yes, both via clicking on the link and via context menu. Are you sure your download path is set correctly?


    Yes, I am sure. Wayfarer does not notice the end of the file and continues to download the file. It could be an issue with the X5000 onboard ethernet. Or Wayfarer can not calculate the size and download time because of an issue with the X5000 onboard ethernet. I can download the file with the Odyssey Web Browser so it isn't a big issue for me.
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
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    xeno74 wrote:
    Could you please check if you can download the following tar.gz file with Wayfarer?

    Download: linux-image-5.10-rc4-X1000_X5000.tar.gz



    Yes, both via clicking on the link and via context menu. Are you sure your download path is set correctly?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Installed this on my PowerBook G4 last night and then my G5 Quad this morning and works well on both.

    Definite speed increase on the G5 less obvious on the G4 but then that is probably understandable.

    Thanks Jacadcaps for all the hard work on this really appreciated.
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    Posts: 46 from 2020/11/17
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    Hi,

    I could download this file without any problem on a IceFS partition.

    And thanks Jacadcaps for WayFarer 1.6 !
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  • »17.11.20 - 07:32
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    I wanted to thank here to everyone who submitted a bugreport using Wayfarer's built-in crash handler. Wayfarer 1.6 is now up with a ton of fixes thanks to all of you. If you want to complain about things that are not crashing, you can contact me by writing to wayfarer at wayfarer.icu. Any feedback is appreciated. This thread also works, but please don't expect me to notice if you complain on other forums. And last but not least, thank you for all the donations.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    I too would prefer to have "Wayfarer" as the default setting, and yes changes to settings are saved when you exit the Settings page AFAIK, from what I have found from my use of Wayfarer, but some websites will require a different User Agent (Spoof) than Wayfarer to function as it needs to. I suppose we have to accept that as fact, and be grateful we can still 'surf the web' in these current times, and hopefully for a little longer into the future thanks to those working on Wayfarer.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 141 from 2017/8/6
    My settings are the default, 'Wayfarer'. There is no apply or save button in the settings so i guess everything changed is saved always?

    I will try to spoof but i think this is not a good idea because it hides our now prefered browser to the statistics.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    I usually use "Chrome" as the default for my use of Wayfarer, though I sometimes use "Safari" as the User Agent, as Wayfarer is sometimes met with a blank page on some websites, as they "feel" more comfortable with browsers they are used to. 8-)

    So, my advice would be to select one of those options and save that, and you should get good, fairly stable use from Wayfarer. I do get a few issues/crashes, from time to time - which I report via the Crash Report GUI or email so jacadcaps and the others working on Wayfarer can get the benefit of what might have caused it. :-)

    I take it you are definitely running v1.5? :-?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Couldn't do that, whole system was crashed. Restarted via power button.
    Now, something different.

    Wayfarer gets reported as "Default Browser", but the user agent string is correct.
    But there is no name provided, of course platform is unknown to all websites.

    i used
    whatsmybrowser.org
    whatismyip.net/tools/browser-check.php
    speed-battle.com/speedtest_e.php
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 141 from 2017/8/6
    I just experience a freeze during a fresh session. I just launched Wayfarer, hit Settings/Browser and the system is now stuck.
    Is there any Ctrl-C like shortcut i can use on Morphos to kill the application?

    [ Edited by amifrog 06.11.2020 - 18:35 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Zetec-s
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    What does "crash the download" mean? Did the application crash?


    Sorry I wasn't very clear.

    The download just stops part way through and the icon changes to indicate it hasn't been successful.

    It was fine downloading smaller files, but the iso for the Chrysalis pack was a real struggle.
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    What does "crash the download" mean? Did the application crash?
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