New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
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    jacadcaps
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    K-L wrote:
    I'm spoofing as iPad. With 1.14, I can select between two formats : 360p and 720p. Now only 360p is proposed.


    Spoof as something else, enable Media Source.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Impressive stuff and impressive update speed!
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    Thanks.

    Unfortunatley, I cannot select anymore 720p on YouTube with any video. All videos are stuck at 360p.

    I'm spoofing as iPad. With 1.14, I can select between two formats : 360p and 720p. Now only 360p is proposed.
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    YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!

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    > Good news for X5000, Efika, Sam460 owners

    …as well as those of Pegasos I/II with G3 :-)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Wayfarer 1.15 is now out!

    This version brings multiple media playback improvements, including seeking, stream quality changes, HLS video support fixes. We've also made it possible to play videos on machines not equipped with Altivec.
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 571 from 2015/6/17
    From: Funeralopolis
    Quote:

    vulture schrieb:
    Yes, that's what happens here too
    Also m.youtube (Safari/iPad spoof) resolutions seems to be capped at 360p or could be that I'm doing something wrong.

    This seems to depend on the specific youtube video. E.g. for the Channel 'ExplainingComputers' I can select 720p, for other stuff I can only select 480p. On the other hand 'ExplainingComputers' certainly does 1080p too.

    Probably this may be due to some video formats (h264, vp9, dav1d) not being available in all resolutions or the mobile version of the page is limited to <1080p? But don't know for sure as I did not test it out, only making wild assumptions. ;-)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 198 from 2008/2/4
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    Quote:

    IKE wrote:
    I noticed I cannot login to YouTube from the webpage, but can login from the main Google webpage. Anyone else notice this?


    Yes, that's what happens here too
    Also m.youtube (Safari/iPad spoof) resolutions seems to be capped at 360p or could be that I'm doing something wrong.



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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    I noticed I cannot login to YouTube from the webpage, but can login from the main Google webpage. Anyone else notice this?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote: NewSense, there's a reason why video playback features are marked as experimental.

    I understnd this, and am happy to be patient on this topic, I know you have done so much already, it just seems to need to be said as I have no idea what has been reported to you, as I don't have access to your "To-Do-List", as I've said before.
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    jacadcaps wrote: My only focus right now is on Youtube.

    OK, I'll bear that in mind, and thanks for identifying your current focus for Wayfarer's video capabilities.
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    jacadcaps wrote: For reasons already mentioned countless of times I am unable to support BBC so your iPlayer problems are likely here to stay.

    Don't think that/far from it, I am impressed that iPlayer is working at all, but I feel when you get more fixed for other sites then the iPlayer will work better as well.

    In fact, it's working better than Formula1.com currently is, and I'd like to see the F1 website improved also, obviously, as that's more mainstream worldwide than the BBC website, so probably of more interest to other users as well, that aren't in the UK-GB and have access to the BBC sections that non-residents can't access anyway. 8-)
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    jacadcaps wrote: I am aware of a few other regressions, they are sure to be fixed eventually.

    OK, I know you're busy on resolving these issues. I just didn't want to let an issue slip past that might be relevant, that's all.
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    jacadcaps wrote: WebKitCryptoQueue is unrelated to video playback.

    I am aware of that, it is the fact that Wayfarer had opened 24 threads as multiple tasks, and there was only one tab open!
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    NewSense, there's a reason why video playback features are marked as experimental. My only focus right now is on Youtube. For reasons already mentioned countless of times I am unable to support BBC so your iPlayer problems are likely here to stay. I am aware of a few other regressions, they are sure to be fixed eventually.

    WebKitCryptoQueue is unrelated to video playback.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    Cego wrote: [... The loader splashscreen appears and vanishes with a red flash in the titlebar.]

    I am using it on a Peg2 with 1GHz and 1GB Ram.

    I have reported this error to jacadcaps already - the error *flash* and an error "clang" sound (that's my choice) as I have error sounds set to offer warnings on errors within the system.

    I am not sure if it is RAM related, as to fix it I only needed to delete the old installation and copy a new download with any saved settings/cache/cURL, etc., replaced to get it working again.

    This issue has happened twice to me, and I am glad someone else has suffered the same issue to confirm it was not just my system, and not me alone that was experiencing this issue, not that I am glad you have had to suffer this issue, but it does show it is an error that can be recreated, corroborated by other user(s). So thanks for reporting it here.

    @ jacadcaps - I'm not trying to be a "party-pooper" here but I am experiencing barely any "video utopia" here with virtually any site, no matter what settings I select/save with v1.14.

    My MacMini seems to be downloading the data for a video from a website, as the data activity on my broadband is showing that, but the data transfer does not create any video on screen, so the data is going onto my system, but it never materialises into actual video images.

    I even had the Task Manager showing that the WebKitCryptoQueue had 24 threads running at one time, with one webpage/tab open trying to load a video and there was no video shown, just a busy rotating busy pointer - how is that possible? :-?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 739 from 2006/5/27
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    Thanks a lot for this great browser! I've been tinkering around with it for a while now. Sadly it quite often occurs that Wayfarer won't start after it has been run for the first time.
    The loader splashscreen appears and vanishes with a red flash in the titlebar.
    I guess it has something to do with the available memory? It sometimes helps to delete the caches, but with v1.14 that wont help neither.

    I am using it on a Peg2 with 1GHz and 1GB Ram.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 571 from 2015/6/17
    From: Funeralopolis
    Quote:

    Piru schrieb:
    Unfortunately this doesn't work with modern gcc versions since they like to plaster vrsave all over the place. The fix requires arduous separation of source code components that actually use altivec and building only them with -maltivec.

    D'oh, this really sounds like very very tedious work... :-(
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    Piru
    Posts: 626 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    ernsteiswuerfel wrote:
    Altivec seems to have other problems too in current code (see here). But looks like at least for the 'yuv2rgb_altivec.c'-part this fix probably works.

    ffmpeg on Wayfarer is not affected as I chose to selectively revert to older code, not yet messed up by these changes.

    However, the current issue is rather that the whole ffmpeg is built with the -maltivec flag, resulting in binary that uses altivec only opcodes even for parts that don't even use altivec per se. This is rather idiotic, considering the code itself has provisions to dynamically check for altivec and use altivec parts only when the unit is available.

    Unfortunately this doesn't work with modern gcc versions since they like to plaster vrsave all over the place. The fix requires arduous separation of source code components that actually use altivec and building only them with -maltivec.
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Yes, afair we have IBM to thank for breaking ffmpeg. Anyway, a similar patch is part of Wayfarer's ffmpeg build already.
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 571 from 2015/6/17
    From: Funeralopolis
    Quote:

    jacadcaps schrieb:
    Yes, it looks like ffmpeg does not work without Altivec right now. I'll see what I can do in future versions.

    Altivec seems to have other problems too in current code (see here). But looks like at least for the 'yuv2rgb_altivec.c'-part this fix probably works.
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    Zetec-s
    Posts: 198 from 2008/7/10
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    I am aware of issues with video / audio start, especially when Youtube changes the quality automatically. Work on this is on-going. Still, if your CPU is too slow to decode the video, it is going to stall, nothing I can do about it.

    Meanwhile, 1.14 is out to address a crash we're seeing in the bugreports coming in.


    I'm struggling to keep up here. I only updated my G5 to 1.13 this morning, my MacMini is still on 1.12 and my Powerbook is on 1.11.
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    I am aware of issues with video / audio start, especially when Youtube changes the quality automatically. Work on this is on-going. Still, if your CPU is too slow to decode the video, it is going to stall, nothing I can do about it.

    Meanwhile, 1.14 is out to address a crash we're seeing in the bugreports coming in.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @ jacadcaps - Most impressive these speedy new version increments, most impressive indeed! 8-D

    Though I was just trying to load a Formula1.com video in their website and as I clicked the link it crashed. I had quit Wayfarer just before as the video I already tried had just been showing the busy loading pointer/cyclic-arrow with no video or audio - so no success in that regard as yet.

    Later I got another failure/crash with v1.13 - Task Manager reported [FROZEN] WkWebView Acinerella Audio Decoder.

    This happened as I was watching a video on BBC iPlayer, with issues, if I pause a video I have to reload the whole page to get the audio and video to play from the point where I paused it. However, the Formula1.com site seems a lot worse, more troublesome to play, or fail to play videos with v1.13 than was the case with v1.12, but it may need some choices changing in the HLS, VP9, and other options to "tweak it" to get it to play better, but it would certainly be probably better, if possible to implement, if the video engine could work out internally what type of video/audio data it was being sent and choose the correct options accordingly›.

    I did try iPlayer on the BBC and to my surprise it loaded a couple of shows - not without problems as the audio "Load/Download" requester popped up, initially I tried Download which didn't seem to load the audio correctly, so I tried Load, and that seemed to manage better, but when I clicked the link to reduce the video resolution it paused the video, and would not restart the video/audio again, so it's still hit+miss with video/audio working together and being able to pause/restart a video or move from one video to another on the same page without issues, but I was amazed that iPlayer on the BBC was useable - great work indeed. :-D

    CPU load on my 1.5GHz MacMini G4 was about 50% for most of the time, but I did have the video option set to low, which is the worst setting possible, as the Medium and Best video options seemed to stall so only the audio continued without pausing, but the image/video went into pause mode all on its own, so either it cannot keep up with the video data throughput or it just loses its way in controlling it, or at least that is the way it seems to me.
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  • MorphOS Developer
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    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Wayfarer 1.13 is now out.
    • HLS support can now be disabled in settings

    • Fixed a regression in cURL code

    • Fixed a crash in media playback initialization

    • Minor player improvements

    • Disabled media playback support for CPUs other than the G4 and G5 family

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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Zetec-s
    Posts: 198 from 2008/7/10
    From: Cheshire, UK
    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    For a while now I cannot even get BBC News videos to play on my mac/iPad here so there's little I can do - and iPlayer doesn't even work in Canada, so don't expect any targeted fixes.


    Don't worry, I know you have to just be general in your approach as once you start targeting different broadcasters, international broadcast rights get in the way.

    The point I was trying to make is that even in this not targeted approach things that I thought would never work have started to work. I mean the overlay YouTube is great and a feels nice and modern when compared to OWB.

    Just keep on doing what you are doing on your plan as your achievements to date are truly brilliant.
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    For a while now I cannot even get BBC News videos to play on my mac/iPad here so there's little I can do - and iPlayer doesn't even work in Canada, so don't expect any targeted fixes.
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    Zetec-s
    Posts: 198 from 2008/7/10
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    I was playing around with Wayfarer on the BBC website last night and I kind of got BBC iPlayer to work.

    As Jacadcaps said before sound is absolutely fine, but when I dropped the picture quality to low it does play.

    What I've found on all BBC videos (both on iPlayer and their main website) is that when they do play there is quite often a spinning circle in the middle of the screen as if it is loading, however the video is playing at the correct speed so not sure if it is just because it is buffering.

    So impressed with how quickly this has been developed by Jacadcaps and the MorphOS Team. I feel that now its on the edge of making MorphOS a real modern multimedia OS. Just needs that final push and at least on a media side it will be an OS that can handle modern online media.

    Donation to support this is on its way. Keep up the great work, what you are doing is really appreciated.
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