New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    ORF-TV-streams works now- WOW!

    Only thing I notice: Useing W F several times, loading- and closing-time increases immediately.....
    Clearing Cache helps a bit, but then we loose FavIcons and personal settings for different Websites (automatic login, etc.)
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    vulture
    Posts: 198 from 2008/2/4
    From: Greece
    Oh man, another release, another great improvement! Thx man!
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Zetec-s
    Posts: 198 from 2008/7/10
    From: Cheshire, UK
    Amazing!!!

    Just downloaded 1.17 onto my MacMini, purely as it popped up as available when I went to use YouTube and its blown me away.

    Not only is YouTube at 720p possible on the MacMini (silent upgrade) but BBC iPlayer is working perfectly.

    I always knew that Jacadcaps and the team would get there but never thought it would be so soon. Simply brilliant.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 571 from 2015/6/17
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    With new 1.17 national television playback works for me (klick). Wow, I am really impressed! :-o Few weeks ago I only got some pixel garbage there but now it's smooth playback on my PowerBook without hogging the cpu too much. I did not expect this to change so fast! Thanks for your hard work Jaca!

    Wayfarer crashed after some time (but continued to play the stream) and I got the occasion to send a bugreport with this excellent inbuilt bugreport tool. ;-)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Cego wrote:
    Looks the same no matter what spoofing option i use.


    That website only plays media if MediaSource is enabled.

    Quote:

    How can i see, if a download is happening or not? I remember there was a network activity window on OWB, but could not find it in Wayfarer.


    Use the Network.sbar.

    Quote:

    Changing Tabs back and forth has no effect at all.


    No reason why it should.
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Wayfarer 1.17 is now out.

    - Media playback settings are now per-host
    - Removed the media playback popup requester mode
    - Various improvements in the player pipeline, including improved HLS

    [ Edited by jacadcaps 06.05.2021 - 22:27 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 739 from 2006/5/27
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:

    However, did you ...

    Do you see the data being downloaded (activity on your network) for the video you triggered?



    Here's a screenshot:

    https://ibb.co/tPnDM76

    Looks the same no matter what spoofing option i use.
    How can i see, if a download is happening or not? I remember there was a network activity window on OWB, but could not find it in Wayfarer.
    Changing Tabs back and forth has no effect at all.
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    why does v1.12 get the video to play and yet the later versions don't allow it to play?


    Wait, what? Isn't that the version you wrote about in those words:

    Quote:


    Initially I got a side-by-side video, a sort of Picture-In-Picture display, of the video squashed into the frame as though 2 versions of the video were running parallel to one another in sync/same time-frame, but with no audio. So, I reloaded the page and then got audio and video, though there was some stuttering (MacMini 1.5GHz) but more tweaking of the "Deblocking filter" allows better, more fluid/continuous - no/less stuttering, video/audio.

    However, on that page there is a second video of an interview of the driver, and it seems that once the first video/audio has been triggered it does not load up the audio or video for the second video without a complete reload of the page.


    That's an interesting definition of 'works better than in later versions'.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    Cego wrote: formula1.com videoplayer won't be loaded on my setup. Wayfarer 1.16 and Peg2 1GHz. I get a blank area with the background pattern.

    Thanks Cego for at least trying out

    However, did you ... Quote:

    [... swap to another tab and then return back to that tab then the controls are displayed and the initial first video thumbnail is displayed, but that is repeated for every moment time-point of the video sequence - the thumbnail shows as 0:00 at every point on the video sequence timeline ...]

    Do you see the data being downloaded (activity on your network) for the video you triggered?

    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote - I'm still not testing formula1.com

    I'm aware of that, it's just why does v1.12 get the video to play and yet the later versions don't allow it to play? It's just so you know how it reacts for me, and there does seem to be reason for optimism . . . when you get a moment to check further into other sites and Wayfarer's capabilities/further development. 8-)
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Cego wrote:
    Are there any plans to integrate an JS JIT compiler?


    Not for the time being.

    @Amigaharry2:
    No idea why that'd cause such an effect, really.

    @NewSense:
    I'm still not testing formula1.com
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 739 from 2006/5/27
    From: Germany
    formula1.com videoplayer won't be loaded on my setup. Wayfarer 1.16 and Peg2 1GHz. I get a blank area with the background pattern.
    Pegasos II G4 @1.0GHz, 1GB DDR Ram, Radeon 9200Pro, 240GB SSD+160GB HD, MorphOS 3.18, AmigaOS4.1 FE, Debian 8
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    It's really weird that the Screenshot screenbar by "Ultragelb" was causing this issue, but it doesn't improve my viewing videos on formula1.com with v1.16, as only v1.12 allows videos to play on formula1.com with my MacMini G4 1.5GHz. :-(
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    I solved the problem now and V1.16 playes videos as it should. The reason was not Wayfarer.
    At moment I see no reason to downgrade. I mostly use G5 or G4 (1.67GHz) which have enough power to see YT "stutter-free" with astonishing low CPU-load - even on PEG2!. So I'm a bit surprised, that it does'nt do well on a Mini with a 1.4 GHz G4!
    I also cannot really confirm that V1.12 was quicker - ok, I've no V1.12 left to compare now and maybe I don't remember right.....
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
    From: Manchester, UK/GB
    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote: [... Im not sure, but I think that this issue does'nt occur with Wayfarer 1.12. Unfortunately I have no V1.12 anymore to test....

    This is one of my points about version after v1.12 - none of them play video as well as the v1.12 release on my MacMini, so (to me at least) it does seem that later versions than v1.12 have lost something of their useability since that release.

    @ Amigaharry2: I still have an archive of v1.12 if you need it to test it, though I feel sure jacadcaps has a copy of the archive as well. ;-)

    Though from your comment: Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote: Found the reason: Hard to believe - but it was an old version of "Ultragelb" Screenshot-sbar.

    It seems you have Wayfarer v1.16 working OK now, is that correct? Have you tried to run a video on formula1.com on your systems?

    I'd just like to know other users "mileage" for that site, as I can't get a video to play with a version later than v1.12. :-(

    When a video sequence on formula1.com loads just the circular loading arrow displays, but if you swap to another tab and then return back to that tab then the controls are displayed and the initial first video thumbnail is displayed, but that is repeated for every moment time-point of the video sequence - the thumbnail shows as 0:00 at every point on the video sequence timeline, so something is not allowing the video to display. The video data seems to be being downloaded, but it just doesn't get displayed on screen, no matter what settings I opt for.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 739 from 2006/5/27
    From: Germany
    Are there any plans to integrate an JS JIT compiler?
    The old OWB JIT runs pretty fine on a 1GHz G4. Dont know how much sense it makes to optimize for such a CPU though...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    @jacadcaps:
    Found the reason: Hard to believe - but it was an old version of "Ultragelb" Screenshot-sbar. Seems that I've forgot to update it on this PB. Never thought that it could have such a crazy influence to Wayfarer.....
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cool_amigaN
    Posts: 777 from 2011/11/30
    YT video plays fine here since day one, though I confirm 360p only available under safari/ipad spoofing (even after reloading the page). Not that I complain though, I am more than happy with its performance :)

    However, there's something that still bugs me: can't you scroll a webpage left/right with left/right arrow keys (if it exceeds the visible width of Wayfarer's window)? I can scroll up/down (with up/down arrows) but not at any side. On OWB this seems to be working. Or it just happen only to me?

    Btw, any news regarding dark mode to be enable as option?

    Also, some times I get WkWebView.curlThread 100% CPU. But w/o any visible reason. I don't know if there is a log I can capture while this is happening. I mean, Wayfarer doesn't crash, so there is nothing to report, I just have to close the browser completely. Closing any affected tab doesn't do any trick, so I am forced for a complete quit/reload.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    Pfft! It'srunning now. Reason was a incomatibility in Prefs/Env-arc/MUI. Killed all entries there and copied back only the content of
    the ISO.
    I don't know which entry exactly was the problem - I'm glad to solved it......

    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 05.05.2021 - 20:26 ]
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Does Wayfarer save any configs outside its directory?


    No.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    Good news:
    I've made a 3.15-iso with my keyfile and cgxvideo.library inserted. After playing around with Wayfarer-settings it plays now videos!! Very strange, because I've tested it on my USB-installation, which contains also only the ISO.....
    So I have now to figure out what's wrong with the installation on HD. Does Wayfarer save any configs outside its directory (except MUI)?
    And a 2nd thing I've to test: Now the PB is connected with Ethernetcable - the other tests are done with WIFI/Atheros Device...
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    No idea, really. If 1.17/1.18 doesn't fix this, we'll have to try some targeted debugging.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    Yes, I did all possible! What I also recognized: it takes a rel. long time till video is shown as "ready to play" (much longer then on the other PB).
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  • »05.05.21 - 13:20
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Did you try pressing pause and then play? It sometimes helps if some internal states don't get correctly propagated.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    Yes, is on!
    I have a PEG2 3xG5, 2xMini, and 2xPB. All oft them do well, only this f***ing PB won't do. Everywhere the same installation. As I wrote above, it seems, that this PB is a bit "special". Not only the screenresolution is different to the 5,7-Series - also firmware has some "special issues" (e.g. if trying to boot from a USB-stick - won't create a runtime device, limited to <4GB-Sticks and some other funny things).
    I think this is a problem of this special hardware.


    Edit:
    For some seconds I could now play a video (after killing all cache and settings-entries). But after first interaction (increasing sound) it stops and could not be started again. Also no any other video can be started now. It's like soemething blocks it. Very strange! I'll do some more tests.
    Im not sure, but I think that this issue does'nt occur with Wayfarer 1.12. Unfortunately I have no V1.12 anymore to test....



    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 05.05.2021 - 15:17 ]
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    @Amigaharry2

    Is MediaSource support on or off?
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