New Modern Webkit-based Browser In Development
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 724 from 2004/11/3
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    Work on Wayfarer 11 progressing...


    Great :) thanks.
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  • Butterfly
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    waldiamiga
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    Work on Wayfarer 11 progressing...


    Wow!
    I'm glad you're still developing your software.

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    :) :) :)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
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    Work on Wayfarer 11 progressing...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
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    @ jacadcaps - It would be even better if there was a way to "interrupt" break-into a loading webpage and just close it, if required, like any page that we come across with "Cloudflare" control, as we won't be able to access such a content controlled webpage anyway.
    Having to wait until a lengthy JavaScript heavy webpage has loaded, can also seem to be toooo long quite often anyway to just be able to close it! :-(
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    Normally it'll eventually let you close the tab - that's what happens with osnews for example.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Primax
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    Irrespective of the specific example, my main question was what I can do if Wayfarer hangs because the content is too complex, etc.?

    Can I just wait and see or can I interrupt it somehow?
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  • »23.08.25 - 04:31
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    @Primax

    It's the donation box (ha ha). Once you block ko-fi.com the site is super-fast. Feel free to complain to os-news' admins. The iframe spikes the CPU on Safari/macOS as well.
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1399 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    @Primax Being incompatible with newer web standards (ECMAScript 6, for example) has a few benefits. The biggest one is that most common tracking solutions will not work, thus do not permnanently run in the background and monitor your mouse movements, etc.

    While OSNews advertise at the top that they are no longer running ads, there are still currently 9 tracking scripts active on this website.

    Aside from this, you might be blocking ads and trackers in OWB but not Wayfarer. Put differently, different browser configurations could play an additional role as well.
  • »19.08.25 - 07:02
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Primax
    Posts: 220 from 2021/7/2
    A question:

    Do you also have websites where Wayfarer runs at full capacity? I have the traffic indicator at the top of the menu, and it is completely maxed out: no more bars, just blue.

    This happens more often lately. This is an example:

    https://www.osnews.com/story/143070/amibrowser-the-chromium-engine-running-on-a-linux-host-talking-to-a-68k-amiga-application/

    By the way, no problems if I ran that with OWB.

    My question: Is this due to my X5000? Or is it the same for you? If so, can someone explain why?
    And above all: what can I do in such a case? Wayfarer then no longer responds.

    Thanks!
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    @jacad: Could now test Amazon again here in Vienna: Works now! I've done absolutely nothing on installation - just booted and it runs...! Seems really to be a temporare Provider-Problem (again...!).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Stevo
    Posts: 919 from 2004/1/24
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    10.5 is now out. WebKit was rebased to latest stable WebKitGTK 2.48.5.


    Thanks :-)
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  • Cocoon
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    Posts: 46 from 2025/7/17
    If one wants to view Adobe Flash content, then download the .swf file and play it locally on your system. AmigaOS4 has Gnash, but I don't have AmigaOS4.

    I would recommend Flash Player 1.4/1.6 by Maxim Ilyn from 2008, but I've tried the program and it is less than ideal. You don't get play/pause/rewind or any controls like that, the .swf just autoplays. I tested two or three .swf files when I tried Maxim's program, however long ago that was, and, if I recall correctly, autoloop is not even an option. Audio continues playing, but the video stops and doesn't loop, so that's a bummer.

    There's one other option that I have yet to try, and that's swfplayer 1.4b6, hosted on Aminet. It's from 2005 and compiled for 68k AmigaOS3, so it should work fine on MorphOS, but the developer prefaces that the software is in beta, so it has kinks. I do not know if using it is a worse experience than using the newer Flash Player 1.4/1.6 by Maxim Ilyn.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
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    @ jacadcaps - I thought you'd say something like that in response to my comment.  8-D

    However, thanks for taking the time to reply - a lot easier, and less time consuming than converting Ruffle !! ;-)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3339 from 2003/3/5
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    NewSense wrote:
    Or is there some hardware "trick" that it accomplishes on little-endian systems that it just can't on big-endian CPUs, even if the code was converted to big-endian code?


    No.

    Even if I somehow managed to write all the necessary bits to make Web Assembly work (all JIT stages, etc), Ruffle would still assume it's running on little endian. You'd have to fix Ruffle itself and compile it to WebAsm. This is all doable, of course, with a team of people that have infinite spare time.
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    jacadcaps
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    @Amigaharry2

    Could also be some local (on-disk) cache issue... But it's normal that a different network connection may serve you a different website, essentially, since it'd be coming from a different CDN.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1392 from 2010/1/6
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    Quote:

    analogkid schrieb:
    @roschmyr: Here, too. Amazon.de works as expected.




    Very interessting! Tested it at home with A1-Provider: Does not work!
    Tested ist now in second location with SPUSU-Provider: works as you discribed. (same Powerbook)
    crazy! Maybe a temporal issue of A1 (had such things in the past). Will test it on monday, when I'm back!
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12578 from 2003/5/22
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    > I always thought that any code that is little endian,
    > can be converted to big-endian

    Sure, but someone would have to undertake that task. As a side note, the better approach than creating another, big-endian variant of original little-endian code is to rewrite it into endian-agnostic code to ease maintenance.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
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    @roschmyr: Here, too. Amazon.de works as expected.

    [ Edited by analogkid 13.08.2025 - 09:00 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    roschmyr
    Posts: 211 from 2003/2/20
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    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    Unfortunately some URLs does'nt work any more as expected. Amazon shows only unformatted page and is useless.
    (https://www.amazon.de)



    hm, https://www.amazon.de works as usual here
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
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    Unfortunately some URLs does'nt work any more as expected. Amazon shows only unformatted page and is useless.
    (https://www.amazon.de)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
    Posts: 1619 from 2012/11/9
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    jacadcaps wrote: @NewSense - Ruffle relies on little-endian-only tech.
    I always thought that any code that is little endian, can be converted to big-endian - even if it was never intended to be used on big-endian systems in the first place? And ... vice-versa!

    Or is there some hardware "trick" that it accomplishes on little-endian systems that it just can't on big-endian CPUs, even if the code was converted to big-endian code?
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    10.5 is now out. WebKit was rebased to latest stable WebKitGTK 2.48.5.
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    jacadcaps
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    @Primax

    I haven't done anything :P

    @NewSense

    Ruffle relies on little-endian-only tech.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Primax
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