ARM for the future?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:


    - Mamba from Qualcomm

    http://semiaccurate.com/2015/01/21/name-qualcomms-64-bit-post-krait-core/
    http://semiaccurate.com/2015/01/26/roadmap-qualcomms-taipan-core-wrong/



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    http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/

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    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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    http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/

    Pi2ModB1GB_-comp-500x283.jpeg


    Very cool, and with a Cortex-A7 it will almost be usable! ;-) No seriously, this is a cool deal, incredible price for what you get. And Windows 10 is coming as well... :-o
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    So much is happening in the ARM world right now, progress almost seem to acellerate!

    :-)


    If guys decided to open source morphos, somebody could just decide to port it.
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    marian wrote:
    If guys decided to open source morphos, somebody could just decide to port it.

    Somebody could, but most likely wouldn't.
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    marian wrote:
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    So much is happening in the ARM world right now, progress almost seem to acellerate!

    :-)


    If guys decided to open source morphos, somebody could just decide to port it.


    Not going to happen: the dark (red) side could benefit from it ;)
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ARM: maybe (we just don't know). Open source: propably not.
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    Morphos should work on cortex A15 un bigendian ;-)
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    > Morphos should work on cortex A15 un bigendian ;-)

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7675&start=522
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    ausPPC wrote:
    http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/

    Pi2ModB1GB_-comp-500x283.jpeg


    I think that UDOO is the most powerful of its category and also price/performance ratio is good as long as it is a Raspberry Pi dual or quad core, with 1 GB RAM DDR3 joint with Arduino microcontroller board.

    It is good as standalone and laptop too, as it features also LVDS connector and battery connector.

    http://www.udoo.org

    Features:

    - Freescale i.MX 6 ARM Cortex-A9 CPU Dual/Quad core 1GHz
    - Integrated graphics, each processor provides 3 separated accelerators for 2D, OpenGL® ES2.0 3D and OpenVG™
    - Atmel SAM3X8E ARM Cortex-M3 CPU (same as Arduino Due)
    - RAM DDR3 1GB
    - 76 fully available GPIO
    - Arduino-compatible R3 1.0 pinout
    - HDMI and LVDS + Touch (I2C signals)
    - Ethernet RJ45 (10/100/1000 MBit)
    - WiFi Module
    - Mini USB and Mini USB OTG
    - USB type A (x2) and USB connector (requires a specific wire)
    - Analog Audio and Mic
    - SATA (Only Quad-Core version)
    - Camera connection
    - Micro SD (boot device)
    - Power Supply 12V and External Battery connector

    [ Edited by Raf_MegaByte 06.02.2015 - 13:04 ]
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    > UDOO [...] is a Raspberry Pi dual or quad core

    What does that mean?
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > UDOO [...] is a Raspberry Pi dual or quad core

    What does that mean?


    UDOO is based on Raspberry Pi motherboard but powered with a CPU dual or quad core ARM Cortex (not to mention DDR3 RAM).

    Raspberry still is only dualcore on any model..

    [ Edited by Raf_MegaByte 06.02.2015 - 19:26 ]
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    > UDOO is based on Raspberry Pi motherboard

    I doubt this is true. What makes you believe that?

    > Raspberry still is only dualcore on any model.

    There is no dual-core Raspberry Pi. The new version 2 is quad-core, all older models are single-core.
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    Frankly, after examining the really poor state of open video drivers for ALL ARM devices, and the poor documentation of their GPUs, at this point I'd rather stay with PPCs and discrete video cards.
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    And yet it moves... I mean, linux works on it just fine.
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > UDOO is based on Raspberry Pi motherboard

    I doubt this is true. What makes you believe that?


    For example this article on Tom's Hardware Italy:

    http://www.tomshw.it/cont/news/udoo-unisce-rasperry-pi-e-arduino-per-cambiare-il-mondo/44936/1.html

    It titles UDOO mix Raspberry pi and Arduino.

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    > Raspberry still is only dualcore on any model.

    There is no dual-core Raspberry Pi. The new version 2 is quad-core, all older models are single-core.


    Really? I thought at least they upgraded all the models to dual. What a pity it is mainly single core.
    Good to hear that version 2 is quad!
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    >>> UDOO is based on Raspberry Pi motherboard

    >> I doubt this is true. What makes you believe that?

    > For example this article on Tom's Hardware Italy: [...]
    > It titles UDOO mix Raspberry pi and Arduino.

    Whatever the article claims, UDOO may be similar in functionality to Raspberry Pi plus Arduino, but it's certainly not based on Raspberry Pi. As far as I can see (via Google translator), the article fails to mention in what way exactly UDOO should be based on Raspberry Pi.

    > I thought at least they upgraded all the models to dual.

    The pre-2 models all used the same single-core SoC.
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    Jim wrote:
    Frankly, after examining the really poor state of open video drivers for ALL ARM devices, and the poor documentation of their GPUs, at this point I'd rather stay with PPCs and discrete video cards.


    The AMD dev board supports discrete cards.
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    This sounds interesting, they want to standardise ARM dev boards.
    A 64bit octa-core for $129 isn't too shabby either!

    https://www.96boards.org/
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    minator wrote:
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    Jim wrote:
    Frankly, after examining the really poor state of open video drivers for ALL ARM devices, and the poor documentation of their GPUs, at this point I'd rather stay with PPCs and discrete video cards.


    The AMD dev board supports discrete cards.



    Worth noting.
    Got any references?
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    > Got any references?

    "PCI Express connectors configurable as a single x8 or dual x4 ports "
    http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-to-accelerate-2014jan28.aspx
    http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/64-bit-developer-kit-2014jul30.aspx
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    Great, Opteron server processors.
    That explains that.
    No built in gpu.
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    > "Skybridge" (products available 2015)

    "CEO Lisa Su has commented that AMD has decided to change their focus away from Skybridge based on customer feedback. Customers were telling AMD that they didn't necessarily need socket compatible solutions, so AMD is going to work on differentiated solutions."
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9231/amds-20162017-x86-roadmap-zen-is-in

    > "K12" (products available 2016)

    "With AMD having opted to prioritize Zen development, K12 has been pushed back from 2016 to 2017, essentially taking the near-simultaneous launch of the two parts off the table. AMD for their part is attributing this change in schedule only to the decision to focus on Zen, however with Opteron A1100 delayed, it’s entirely possible this is also a knock-on effect that has pushed back the entire AMD ARM roadmap."
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9232/amds-k12-arm-cpu-now-in-2017
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