MOSNet stage #2
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    Dietmar
    Posts: 114 from 2003/2/26
    From: Aachen, Germany
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    - 2. Configuration editor


    A basic configuration editor probably can be done in a an hour, somebody has to write a small, Installer-script-based GUI - a Wizard - to edit and fill-out out a config file. No big deal. This thread turns a mouse into a mountain. Unless one demands a commercial grade, royal-de-luxe GUI...?

    [ Edited by Dietmar on 2006/4/9 12:45 ]
  • »09.04.06 - 11:41
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Wishmaster
    Posts: 342 from 2003/6/29
    A MiamiDX alike GUI would be overkill IMHO.
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  • »09.04.06 - 11:43
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    Miami/DX were written with a GUI in mind since the beginning. What MosNEt needs, its a sortof Genesis like frontend OR (as already pointed by someone) even an Arexx one. (better than nothing)

    No needs of eye-candy things. Its enough to achieve all the settings in a more "human-level" way. (useful for no advanced users)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1914 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
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    Framiga wrote:
    Miami/DX were written with a GUI in mind since the beginning. What MosNEt needs, its a sortof Genesis like frontend OR (as already pointed by someone) even an Arexx one. (better than nothing)

    No needs of eye-candy things. Its enough to achieve all the settings in a more "human-level" way. (useful for no advanced users)


    I and I hope others never expected a Miami like GUI. A simple one that allows you to enter the required settings is all it needs. Simple and easy to get the average user started. Thats all.
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  • »09.04.06 - 13:12
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    gunne
    Posts: 441 from 2003/2/26
    From: Sweden
    Dietmar,

    Yes, I suppose so. And I believe most people are right in that it should be little more expected as for the 'GUI-part', then whats currently even not specified in the bounty description.

    I also believe Sonic is reading, and take it as feedback. :-)

    The current installer script supplied in the archive, does work if You connects using DHCP using the onboard 100Mbit ethernet-connector. If You have need for a static configuration for instance, this wont be set up by the installer script. You need to bring up the file interfaces in a editor and put in the ip numbers to use, and also in resolv.conf and probably also hosts. Also the usergroup.library is a separate archive, and will not be installed by the installer.

    But this is what we have to learn for future bounties. To write better and more detailed bounty-descriptions. The aim with bounties is to give developers something back for the time and work spent in the creation of useful tools and applications, and to help creation of useful tools and applications.
    Best wishes, Gunne
  • »09.04.06 - 16:23
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    As for MiamiDX the answer is very simple. Its Holger Kruses software.


    Hm?
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  • »09.04.06 - 17:36
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    Senex
    Posts: 498 from 2003/2/17
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    Hm?


    Means: there is no possibility to port it to MorphOS because it is not an open-source software (and the author, in this special case, not even interested in accepting money for key-files anymore, AFAIK, not to mention giving away the source code to some other developer).
  • »09.04.06 - 17:44
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    AFAIK, not to mention giving away the source code to some other developer


    I don't understand why... If I write a program, and I am not interested more in developing, or even selling it, I'm sure I would not be so stupid to not give the source out of my hands if somebody asks it.
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  • »09.04.06 - 23:08
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    Posts: 342 from 2003/6/29
    Because it has been pirated too much and he got angry.
    What is so hard to understand.
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  • »09.04.06 - 23:34
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    GK_LKA
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    Of course, because people couldn't buy it...
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  • »09.04.06 - 23:35
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    Posts: 408 from 2004/7/15
    From: Russia, Moscow
    Well, well, well.
    1. I remember about a GUI. I will continue it anyway. I just need to finish up some commercial work, unrelated to MorphOS in any way.
    2. Some of you cries here and there "i have a problem". Why don't you subscribe to the mailing list or just drop me a email about it?
    3. 2 Arek N.: I've asked you for some additional info, where are you?
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  • »11.04.06 - 07:01
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    Kaczus
    Posts: 199 from 2003/9/6
    From: Poland / Lodz
    I have a little sugestion... Better use site or something. If I must to subscribe to another mailing list, i will choose crying :P Maybe bugtracker will be better to use like some other programs: http://www.ppa.pl/bugtracker/index.php
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  • »11.04.06 - 07:59
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    Posts: 408 from 2004/7/15
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    Some more words.
    1. There is a bugtracker on sf.net. Who does use it?
    2. 2 Elena: Oh, sorry, sorry. I've never got any email from you, it looks like email problem.
    3. Can anyone point me at a *GOOD* mailing list service? Freelists.org seems to be very restrictive.
    4. Mailing list is easier to manage. In addition it doesn't eat my http traffic which is limited to 120 mb/month (previously it was 50).
    5. I really don't force anyone. If you don't want, don't pay.
    6. Mimimal requirements were something like control panel. It is there.
    7. Okay, here is free development roadmap: please give me ~2 weeks. I'll upgrade TCP code and produce v1.1. Let's see what happens with it. This can affect speed, random crashes, etc. It will also add T/TCP.
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  • »11.04.06 - 10:21
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    That sounds good.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1914 from 2003/10/19
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    That sounds real good. I hope you dont get the wrong impression of most of us not happy with what you have done for us. Most do like it. I just think it needed a bit more before callin git done is all. Thanks again Sonic.
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  • »11.04.06 - 12:36
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    Posts: 408 from 2004/7/15
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    Heh... It simply can't be done "at all". Networking technology constantly develops. MOSNet lacks IPv6, PPP, bridging, packet filtering, BPF, PCap... This list can be extended.
    Many of these tasks are separate large projects despite they expand already existing software. If someone doesn't beleive, he can try his hands on it. The CVS is open for co-development under any condition, i put no restrictions, just mail me for getting r/w access. However, noone tries to do it... I wonder why... Note that inetd and TCP: are *relatively* simple tasks.
    Please don't try to break me into pieces. Unfortunately it's impossible. I can't do all at once. ;-)

    [ Edited by Sonic on 2006/4/11 16:00 ]
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  • »11.04.06 - 13:49
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    What is the TCP: exactly?
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  • »12.04.06 - 09:15
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    Posts: 408 from 2004/7/15
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    GK_LKA wrote:
    What is the TCP: exactly?



    It's a handler which represents TCP protocol as an AmigaDOS device. Appears to be often used by ARexx scripts.
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    Sounds good :)
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  • »12.04.06 - 09:50
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    rms
    Posts: 599 from 2004/11/27
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    E. g. SpamFryer.rexx needs it. If you want to use SpamFryer with YAM it want work without TCP:
  • »13.04.06 - 06:40
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