iMac G5
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    For your information then: I am gonna register my Powermac G5 next month. So there is at least one coming :-)

    I simply assume that these bugs will be taken care of. Sooner is better than later, but I'm starting to understand that it's a whole lot better to try to appreciate what you got rather than longing for the next big update ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, so is there no iMac G5 with a an ATI video chip?
    Its all nvdidia?
    :-(
    So it will have to be quite a bounty to get nvidia support written.
    How much do you need?
    I think we would all give to that.
    The code would certainly be helpful even down the road.
    :-D
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > so is there no iMac G5 with a an ATI video chip? Its all nvdidia?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9144&forum=3

    62.5% of iMac G5 models have a Radeon GPU.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, so is the isight the one that is easy to take apart?
    :-D

    You all still haven't said how much money you need to raise to get an ATI based iMac G5 working.
    We need a figure!
    :-D

    [ Edited by bash64 14.06.2013 - 11:12 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ausPPC
    Posts: 543 from 2007/8/6
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    The way it went last time was that various systems were supplied to the developer who took on the bounty - there were various reasons for this. As things stand, iMac G5 support may be happening anyway. http://www.geit.de/eng_index.html (read the 'Geit@Home #2 2013' entry) Also, no one has said how much they're willing to put up. The way bounties work is someone makes a proposition and, if it's attractive enough, a developer might take some interest.
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
    From: Germany
    It is unlikely that any kind of bounty will make iMac G5 support happen any sooner.

    Just my 2 cents ...

    Not because it is never going to happen but at the moment it would be a waste of developer resources to spend more time on even more Apple PPC hardware options IMHO.

    Currently, there would only be 2 MorphOS-Team developers who could add the support for iMac G5 IMHO. One is currently fixing the open G5 issues that have shown up with the MorphOS 3.2 release - and I'm not sure if he is keen on adding more to this list by supporting even more models - and the other one sees no point in expanding support to even more Apple PPC hardware options than there are now already ....

    So whatever plan you come up with in this thread regarding iMac G5, it is unlikely to work out ...
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12080 from 2003/5/22
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    > As things stand, iMac G5 support may be happening anyway.
    > http://www.geit.de/eng_index.html (read the 'Geit@Home #2 2013' entry)

    Read pega-1's comment #11 in this thread, which refers to this entry.
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    Posts: 10 from 2013/6/14
    As a longtime lurking admirer of Morphos, my first license will be for a model
    with a built-in monitor, so only (unsupported) G5 or G4 imac, or a 1.42 emac,
    or a laptop would be on the list. The G5 imac first choice,
    and laptop, last choice. (trackpad hater)

    I have seen many local G5/G4 towers in various states of life and death,
    and could probably cheaply cobble together a fine working unit, but before doing that,
    I would just fasten a Mini to the
    backside of some 20" lcd, for a home-brew imac.

    I only need something fairly portable, with basic internet, music and video playback,
    and a G5 imac is perfect for me. Congratulations to the Morphos team on the latest release,
    laptop lovers should be well served for years. I hope to have a licensed setup by September.
    Cheers
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    Posts: 10 from 2013/6/14
    Zylesea,
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    While it's a decision of the team anyway I'd suggest to wait a little and watch the registrations numbers of G5. So far not many have registered which isn't really promising for a possible iMac G5 version.

    I think a reduced price for second and third licenses, would be helpful.
    Especially if your G5 market is already saturated with G4 users, who must
    weigh the actual improvements they will enjoy, in setting up a G5.
    A serious user (as opposed to a confessed lurker)
    might like getting about 20% more off, for each new license,
    111, 89, 69, with all further licenses bottom capped at 49.
    Bounties are great, to let the users chip in as able.
    Cheers
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    I'd donate $100...lets count how much people are willing to donate.
    Any other bounty people?
    :-D
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    I'd go $40, if I can launder it through AmigaDave,
    since I don't have paypal ;-) I'm good with beans, rice,
    and a spice rack ;-)
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    Senex
    Posts: 498 from 2003/2/17
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    jurrasic500,
    Quote:

    I think a reduced price for second and third licenses, would be helpful.


    Wouldn't work due to the OS licence not being per person, but per machine. Thus suggestions like 20% off for each additional registration would create a nice business model for registering and selling cheap bundles of (anyway already used) computers with a licenced version of MorphOS.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, who has got info on what does work on the iMac G5?
    There are pictures. Don't deny it.
    ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, Someone inserted early on in the discussion (on page 1) pictures of the iMac G5 running MorphOS.
    So what gives with all the pessimism about getting an iMac G5 working when you have already got it booting to the desktop?
    Are you intentionally blocking iMac G5 from booting on MOS 3.2?
    It obviously will boot.
    :-(
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Quote:

    It obviously will boot.
    :-(


    There is a big difference between booting system and fully operating and functional system, don't you think so?
    MorphOS 3.x
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12080 from 2003/5/22
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    > Are you intentionally blocking iMac G5 from booting on MOS 3.2?

    MorphOS has always been blocked from booting on non-supported machines even if it would somehow boot if not blocked. The MorphOS Team has always been very open about this.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    I guess this has been addressed somewhere else already but, are there any hardware problem that makes a port difficult?

    What I mean is, are there any good reason not to port to the iMac G5, except for the "there is plenty of hardware already" argument? If there are parts that are hard/impossible to port then we have a straight answer there of why not. Otherwise, a bounty like with the Powermac G5 seems like a good idea. Then there will be hardly any hardware left to port that's worth porting.
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  • Just looking around
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    Senex,
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    Wouldn't work due to the OS licence not being per person, but per machine.

    That is a business decision, that can be changed, if it seems advantageous.
    When businesses saturate their (G4) market, they adopt new business plans,
    or may stagnate. Someone mentioned a slow G5 uptake. I think when the few quirks are fixed,
    a lot of people will buy in. The G5, in it's day, had appeal beyond just the raw stats.
    Kind of like mid '60's muscle cars, or someones first Benz ;-)

    Could a thriving cottage industry of recycled age-ware computers emerge,
    if the fourth and subsequent licences were at 50?. No law against having both
    a machine, and a personal license issued, to limit abuse. I could imagine
    some folks could find a place at home, for a mini, a laptop, and a desktop,
    270 in license fees, in my hypothetical case, still a pretty nice stack of cash
    to morph about with.
    Cheers
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
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    Quote:

    What I mean is, are there any good reason not to port to the iMac G5, except for the "there is plenty of hardware already" argument?


    Probably limited resources to do that and the fact that current G5 port has to be more polished?
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    I think its been proven by now that I am not the only one on here asking for this.
    Can we get a list of what does/doesn't work on the iMac G5?
    I can get them for as little as $100.
    However, now it seems you'd like me to get a tower G5 and license it first.
    Well, I'd prefer to get an iMac G5 and boot into a unfinished MOS instead and wait for the rest of the drivers.
    :-D
    I see no need to buy and license a giant tower I don't really want.
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Frankly, I just went lower end and added an iBook.
    That port made sense.
    And the higher end Power mac G5s make sense to me.
    It gives us powerful systems.
    iMacs? Don't appeal to the hacker in me.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    Well, it looks like I will get the tower, but only the one that is 2.7ghz just for the raw speed I will put up with owning a desktop computer for now.
    The price seems to be around $250 to $300 for the 2.7ghz version on ebay.
    :-D
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12080 from 2003/5/22
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    > I'm just amazed no ones even like tried it once.

    "I finally got around to downloading the latest MorphOS 3.2 version to install on my PowerBook and the two Mac G5 devices I recently acquired - an iMac and a 2.5GHz PowerMac. [...] I did not see my iMac included on the list of supported MorphOS devices, but I decided to give it a go anyway. As you might expect it did not work."
    http://blog.a-eon.biz/blog/?p=3707
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    Won a Powermac G5 2.5ghz for $124 on ebay.
    :-D
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    bash64
    Posts: 934 from 2010/10/29
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    Converting Powermac to heatsinks and fans. LCS is going bye bye.
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