MorphOS : : Public Release of MorphOS 3.0
Posted By: jacadcaps. on 2012/6/10 9:17:57
MorphOS on PowerBook G4 The MorphOS Team is proud to announce the immediate availability of MorphOS 3.0.

The release brings, among many other things, PowerBook support for 1.67GHz models, the CD / DVD authoring application Jalapeno, the FTP / SFTP client Transfer, an updated Odyssey Web Browser, new Reggae classes, the Reggae based music player Jukebox, and many other improvements.

The update is free for the owners of MorphOS 2.x keyfiles. Moreover, older machines can now be registered at reduced prices.
 
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    Very nice!! The special price for reg keys is a very good bonus and makes registering the machines a no-brainer.

    I'll be downloading this update shortly! :-D
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    What immediate results will we see from the new Shared Cairo graphical library, if any?
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    What immediate results will we see from the new Shared Cairo graphical library, if any?


    Smaller binaries using Cairo - meaning less memory wasted.
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    The best news this year. MorphOS Team rules! :)
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    w00t...just when I ran out of money! Guess I'll have to steal a powerbook now :)
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    o/. is it better to use pfs3 or sfs for a clean install ?
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    absolutely great! runs smooth on my powerbook :) i just hope, there will be a battery level displaying utility...

    bye, MarK.
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    absolutely great! runs smooth on my powerbook :) i just hope, there will be a battery level displaying utility...


    Just open sbar settings, enter "titlebar" and add " %rb" to the title.

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    o/. is it better to use pfs3 or sfs for a clean install ?


    I fear PFS won't work without manually tweaking its settings after format - it defaults to short filenames.
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    Update to 3.0 is complete! It couldn't have been made any more foolproof. Checking out 3.0 now. Good stuff guys!
    :-)
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    My god!!!! Finally!!! Fantastic news!

    Can't wait to get it installed on my Peggy!!! and what can I say about my Powerbook!

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    Sweeeeeeet

    Update went in faultlessly. I see Preferences still have the same odd behaviour, would have hoped it got fixed :(

    [ Edited by hooligan On 2012/6/8 22:21 ]
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    Finally !!! Awesome !!!

    Any info about better AGP transfer ???
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    Did Trance and/or 3D performance get a major boost in MorphOS 3.0? Payback with all bells and whistles seems to have a substantial speed increase with 3.0 :-)

    [ Edited by redrumloa On 2012/6/8 15:04 ]
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    Ah, finally! Flawless install - now I only need time to investigate... :-)
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    installed on my powerbook 5.8 + SSD ... it flies

    special congrats for the team for the ultra fast registration process, just registered and received my key in less than 5 minutes... impressive !

    just one downside.... hard to make a "@" on a powerbook with french keyboard, as the key for it gives me "<" so i struggled a bit to fill the registration form in. But that's details. Waiting for 3D suppport now, that;s all what's missing (with wireless).

    impressed so far ! thanks !

    posted with powerbook !

    edit : typos

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    This is great! Boots nicely on my Powerbook 5,6, going to install it on my mini now. But I have a very noobish question: How to use the RMB with the touchpad ctrl+click doesn't work as all my other quickly tried combinations.
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    Hi,
    Just tried the demo on my PB. My comments about Morphos. It's my first try on an NG system.
    1) The default theme is not professional. (don't tell me I can change it, new user first impression should be the best possible)
    2) I was expecting a Doc by default, with all the necessary tools and programs)
    3) why ask to download fonts for OWB, why not put them in the CD first? (GPL issue?)
    4) I think that it's time to remove all those icons from the WB, a kind of Finder like on OSX should be set by defaults.
    5) the OWB window is not fullscreen by default, I can see the volumes icons above.

    I'm sure that once all set Morphos can look good but why not made it so by default? Right now I'm a bit disappointed. I know all of the veterans here will scream but for now I'm not impressed at all quite the contrary but yes, I've homework to do to be confortable with it...
    It would be nice to boot from an USB key, optical drive is something from the past IMHO.
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    When I close a preferences window, (say audio) with close-button the same window appears next time I open prefs. Hate it, absolutely hate it.


    You know that there is a menu item to turn prefs into list mode? There is also a save menu item to save that behavior.

    At the end it will still select the last used item from list, but otherwise it would show the first one, which is audio, probably the least often used prefs panel.

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    This is great! Boots nicely on my Powerbook 5,6, going to install it on my mini now. But I have a very noobish question: How to use the RMB with the touchpad ctrl+click doesn't work as all my other quickly tried combinations.


    There is a commodity located in utilites/Commodities named ShiftClick, which reenabled the control behavior.

    When booting from CD/ISO there is also a little teddy icon inside the picture which enabled that functuality with a single click.

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    This is great! Boots nicely on my Powerbook 5,6, going to install it on my mini now. But I have a very noobish question: How to use the RMB with the touchpad ctrl+click doesn't work as all my other quickly tried combinations.


    When using the touchpad, multi-touch is supported, so if you tap the touchpad with two fingers at the same time, it will give you a RMB click.

    Other touchpad gestures are supported as well, so just play around with it and you will discover what works and what is not supported.
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    @Geit

    Thanks, good hint.. that's much better. Still its strange that closing a window will bring it back again next time.. I just cant see any logic in it.
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    I'm sure that once all set Morphos can look good but why not made it so by default? Right now I'm a bit disappointed. I know all of the veterans here will scream but for now I'm not impressed at all quite the contrary but yes, I've homework to do to be confortable with it...
    It would be nice to boot from an USB key, optical drive is something from the past IMHO.
    Kamel


    You are quite rude to criticize something you have just begun using when you do not know how things work and your attitude is one which assumes that you are the only person who knows what looks professional to other new users. Your opinion is appreciated, but it is just one opinion and judging from other posts and past experience with most other MorphOS users, the look or appearance of MorphOS is liked and your opinion is in the minority, so I would not expect the developers to change anything to satisfy your likes and dislikes and you are on your own to change the appearance to what ever you like and save those settings. That has always been one of the strong points of any Amiga, or MorphOS computer.
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    @Geit

    Thanks, good hint.. that&#039;s much better. Still its strange that closing a window will bring it back again next time.. I just cant see any logic in it.


    In fact it is quite useful, when you e.g. setup network and want to test. No need to select previous settings over and over again each time after opening the preferences.

    Makes no sense when it opens in "audio" preferences each time you open settings just because its the first in list. :)

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    [ Edited by geit On 2012/6/8 22:58 ]
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    This is great! Boots nicely on my Powerbook 5,6, going to install it on my mini now. But I have a very noobish question: How to use the RMB with the touchpad ctrl+click doesn't work as all my other quickly tried combinations.


    Use two fingers on the touchpad for rmb. You can also place them on the touchpad and use the button for a sticky click. Two fingers also give you scrolling.
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    Great news. :-) Many thanks to the MorphOS team for the new update. I'm downloading the universal and Efika versions now. Although my first install will be to a new (used) PowerBook which arrived by courier today. Must be fate! ;-)

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    @AmigaDave,
    I'm not rude I just express what I feel using Morphos.
    New user will not compare Morphos with Amiga OS 3.x, they will compare it to Windows 7, or OSX Lion or Ubuntu, no more no less. It's not up to the user to tweak the OS to be able to have something usable or that look "professional", it's should be made by default.
    Of course the MOS Team has put a lot of effort on this release but to attract new users the first contact should be the best possible based on today standard not the one of 1992.
    Maybe I set my expectation too high...
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    Fantastic, I hope that MorphOS 3.0 runs fine on the Mac Mini because the 2.7 sometimes it is maddening.
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    how 'bout some screenshots, especially of the new bundled applications? :-)

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    Congratulations to all involved in the development process: it seems like a lot of hard work to accomplish this release.
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    Ok, my MorphOS 2.7 has already been updated to 3.0 finished. My Pegasos2/G4 is working with MorphOS 3.0 now. Speed of new OWB is awesome! I can't belive...
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    o/. is it better to use pfs3 or sfs for a clean install ?


    I fear PFS won't work without manually tweaking its settings after format


    Is there any guide on this, or recommendations?

    PFS3 is faster AFAIK, are there any other pros (or cons) for using it as a base for a clean install?

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    it defaults to short filenames.


    Why, if this is a problem when using it in MorphOS?
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    Hi,
    4) I think that it's time to remove all those icons from the WB, a kind of Finder like on OSX should be set by defaults.



    Problem here is people have so many tastes it is impossible please everyone... especially on Amiga where some prefer strictly classic approach, others OSX approach and others WinXP alike...

    I think only sensible approach would be providing few preset options to choose from when making first install...
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    Heh.. I go away for 1 day and miss this! I'm going to try to buy a PowerBook tomorrow, wish me luck! ;-)
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    Great, finally SATA support for Powermacs! Many great new tools, but unfortunately no FLAC player included, despite that there's a FLAC enabled CD ripper included.

    Nevertheless, worthy great work!
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    MorphOS Team, as always not enough words to say thanks to all of you! I'm going to spend a nice week end.
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    Quote:

    Hi,
    4) I think that it&#039;s time to remove all those icons from the WB, a kind of Finder like on OSX should be set by defaults.



    Problem here is people have so many tastes it is impossible please everyone... especially on Amiga where some prefer strictly classic approach, others OSX approach and others WinXP alike...

    I think only sensible approach would be providing few preset options to choose from when making first install...


    Hi,
    I think that it is a good idea.
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    Great, finally SATA support for Powermacs! Many great new tools, but unfortunately no FLAC player included, despite that there's a FLAC enabled CD ripper included.

    Nevertheless, worthy great work!


    You mean you wanted an embedded flac player ? Otherwise aminet radio has a flac plugin.
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    > Any info about better AGP transfer ???

    Good question. The amigaworld.net news item mentions the inclusion of "new, faster 3D drivers for Radeon cards", which have been shown to the public since 2010. If that also includes the promised enabling of AGP transfers I don't know, though.
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    The time it takes to choose which OS to boot from on a Mini has been greatly reduced.
    I'm sure someone can explain why this is but it's much appreciated in any case.

    Many thanks for the update.
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    Congratulations guys! A great release! OWB feels really faster too! Respect!
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    Great work guys!
    MorphOs 3.0 feels much faster on Mac Mini and is very stable.

    Just missing WLan Support and new 3D Drivers with more features (shader).

    I really like Jukebox and Transfer.
    Flac support is missing in Reggae!

    Keep up your good work!

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    There seems to be a tiny mistake in the boot disc, I got no picture through DVI on my Radeon 8500, luckily I had one old screen with analog cable.
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    Nice to have this.
    Of course its released at the same time my PC decides to crash to an un-bootable state.

    Maybe that's just Microsoft's way of reminding me how much they suck.

    Kudos guys.

    Hopefully Wlan and 3D for the R300 make it to the next (or a subsequent) release.


    BTW - Great news on the price drop for older machines. I didn't think it would be that significant.
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    Thanks for the uppdate!

    Works grate here on my Mac mini!

    And the new OWB rocks as usuale! :-)
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    I installed it without problem on my Pegasos. I would like to know about the networking ability. I tried running an ethernet cable from my Internet-connected computer to the Pegasos, and MorphOS seems to "see" it judging by the network activity monitor. But I am not able to use the connection w. a browser or anything else.

    Are there wireless options?
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    I'm loving the video preview, view as Thumbnails then put the mouse pointer onto the little picture

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    I installed it without problem on my Pegasos. I would like to know about the networking ability. I tried running an ethernet cable from my Internet-connected computer to the Pegasos, and MorphOS seems to &quot;see&quot; it judging by the network activity monitor. But I am not able to use the connection w. a browser or anything else.


    Is it a Pegasos 2? That one has two Ethernets, one 100MBit and one Gigabit (see the Peg2 manual of which is which). If you connect one of these, then you must disable the other in the Netstack preferences. That usually does the trick! :-)

    Edit: I read your post a little more carefully now, and it seems you are connecting one computer directly to another (with no switch in between)? If so, are you using a crossover network cable? You should, but again - *only* if connected directly from one computer to another! Also, you must of course make sure the other computer properly shares the network, provides a local IP etc via DHCP, but you did that, right? Is your "sharing setup" working with other computers?

    If you don't have a crossover cable at hand, try connecting your Internet TP cable directly to the Pegasos (and follow the advice I gave above), and it should work.

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    Are there wireless options?


    Maybe in future updates (at least for the WiFi chips used in the PowerBook computers I suppose). As written elsewhere, there are some ways to get "wireless" (nothing to do with the OS though), browse around in the current MorphOS 3.0 threads... ;-)

    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma On 2012/6/9 21:45 ]
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    >> Are there wireless options?

    > Maybe in future updates (at least for the WiFi chips used
    > in the PowerBook computers I suppose).

    I think support for PCMCIA/CardBus cards with Atheros 5k chipset to be used in the PowerBooks will come way before support for built-in AirPort Extreme. And once support for the Atheros 5k CardBus cards is finished, PCI cards with same chipset will be usable in Pegasos 1/2 and PowerMac as well.
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    So when's 3.1 out and what features will have? Wifi? The New Panels? Resize of the thumbnails?


    He asked, innocently...

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    So when's 3.1 out and what features will have?


    :lol:

    Well I would *guess* that 3.1 will be what 2.1 was to the 2.0, mostly fixes but also a few new things, out before the summer is over (I think it has been under development in parallel for a few months already)...

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    Would be nice, but somehow I don't think so...

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    Hopefully...
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    Hi,
    4) I think that it&amp;#039;s time to remove all those icons from the WB, a kind of Finder like on OSX should be set by defaults.



    Problem here is people have so many tastes it is impossible please everyone... especially on Amiga where some prefer strictly classic approach, others OSX approach and others WinXP alike...

    I think only sensible approach would be providing few preset options to choose from when making first install...


    Hi,
    I think that it is a good idea.
    Kamel


    Well, maybe but isn't the default theme the most 'professional' looking one anyway?

    Personally I like it, maybe a Windows/MacOS, errr inspired themes would be a nice idea :-?
  • »2012/6/10 8:25
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    Resize of the thumbnails?


    Works for years. Two ways to do it :
    - ctrl + mouse wheel in icon view
    - click on the left column in lister view

    About professional settings/look... it could be interesting to have a list of *facts*.
    i.e. no "I don't like it" but some "this point should be very exactly like that". "this color should be red instead of blue"... etc
  • »2012/6/10 10:23
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    @ kamelito

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    I m not rude I just express what I feel using Morphos.(...)Of course the MOS Team has put a lot of effort on this release but to attract new users the first contact should be the best possible based on today standard not the one of 1992.


    I hate to point this out but implying that the user interface is based on standards from 1992 is just you being rude.

    Here are links to screenshots showing what operating systems actually looked like in 1992..


    Geoworks 1.2

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    OS/2 2.0

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    System 7.1 (MacOS)

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    Windows 3.1

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    I am confident that the age difference between these user interface designs and the one used by MorphOS today should be rather obvious irregardless of personal taste.

    [ Edited by ASiegel On 2012/6/10 12:28 ]
  • »2012/6/10 10:55
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    Resize of the thumbnails?


    Works for years. Two ways to do it :
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    - click on the left column in lister view




    Well, ride me sideways!

    That's another one for the Tip of the Day program init!?
  • »2012/6/10 10:57
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    This is great stuff! Thank you to all of the developers. The price drop is fantastic news and now I will be -finally- registering my efika :)

    [ Edited by Debaser On 2012/6/10 7:20 ]
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    Thank you, Morphos team, for the free upgrade on my Mac mini! Great to see the progress!

    (Had to do a clean install, though, and thus wiping the harddrive completely - bye-bye to all my settings, bookmarks etc. But that's not really a problem to me.)

    Runs like a charm on my Powerbook as well. Make the wifi work one hacky way or another, and be it for the PCMCIA card I bought, and I'll register that one, too!

    Now waiting for a Pack ultimate. ;-)
  • »2012/6/10 11:59
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    Is it a Pegasos 2? That one has two Ethernets, one 100MBit and one Gigabit (see the Peg2 manual of which is which). If you connect one of these, then you must disable the other in the Netstack preferences. That usually does the trick! :-)

    Edit: I read your post a little more carefully now, and it seems you are connecting one computer directly to another (with no switch in between)? If so, are you using a crossover network cable? You should, but again - *only* if connected directly from one computer to another! Also, you must of course make sure the other computer properly shares the network, provides a local IP etc via DHCP, but you did that, right? Is your "sharing setup" working with other computers?



    Yes, it is a Pegasos 2. I tried disabling the Gigabit socket, no dice. I wonder if anyone actually uses both ethernet sockets.

    I can broadcast my Windows 7 Internet connection to my Mac via wireless. I have not tried running an ethernet cable to any other machine than the Pegasos.

    It is just a standard Ethernet cable, but there are guides online that tell how to share the connection via ethernet with an XBox, so I was just going by that. The instructions are not XBox specific, they're just referencing standard instructions that should work.

    Can I turn off MorphOS's built-in TCP/IP and try another TCP/IP program? I only see how to uncheck the ports in settings, not turn it off.
  • »2012/6/10 13:09
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    Yes, it is a Pegasos 2. I tried disabling the Gigabit socket, no dice. I wonder if anyone actually uses both ethernet sockets.


    Well, it's good to have the choice I guess! :-) Make *sure* you disable the *right* one. The connectors can easily be mixed up, I've done it myself. Only the one you are actually using should be checked, you can't have two enabled at the same time. If uncertain, try selecting the other (or shifting the cable).

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    I can broadcast my Windows 7 Internet connection to my Mac via wireless. I have not tried running an ethernet cable to any other machine than the Pegasos.


    Can Windows 7 have multiple Internet shares (like WiFi and cable) at the same time? Didn't know that...

    Anyway, try disabling the wireless and hooking up your Mac to the Win7 box using the same cable and windows settings as you try to use for your Pegasos. If that works as supposed, it's probably down to you have enabled/disabled the wrong network port in Netstack. If not, your problem lies elsewhere. You don't happen to have some weird SW firewall on the PC side that prevents your new Internet share?

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    Can I turn off MorphOS's built-in TCP/IP and try another TCP/IP program?


    Yes that would be possible I guess (I used both Miami and Genesis back in the days), but it would hardly make any difference. Netstack works fine with Pegasos.

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    I only see how to uncheck the ports in settings, not turn it off.


    Unchecking is how you "turn them off". Works for me anyway! :-) Again, if your cable share (not wifi) works on your Mac, it should work on your Pegasos as well. If it doesn't, it's most likely down to your selected network port being the wrong one.

    Anyway, under all circumstances (even if you get the above to work), you would benefit a lot from getting yourself a real router, one that supports both WiFi and cable connections. You get good quality for very cheap these days. There are so many benefits, including security and ease of network management. *All* your computers would *love* you for getting one! ;-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »2012/6/10 14:07
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    You can send CTRL-C to NetStack program to stop it.
  • »2012/6/10 16:25
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    What would be the price to register on a mac Cube?
  • »2012/6/10 20:18
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    I have been away for a week and I see this only now.. There is only one word to say: F I N A L L Y ! ! ! ! !

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  • »2012/6/11 19:46
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    Let me get this straight. You are an AROS fan but you think MorphOS is ugly?

    [ Edited by redrumloa On 2012/6/11 18:33 ]
  • »2012/6/11 21:56
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    But in case you don't know AmigaOS (and MorphOS), the icons of Odyssey Web Browser and Transfer you can see are just there because the person who made this grab iconified them on desktop... There's really nothing wrong with supporting appicons in the desktop, you know. :)
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    Nevermind ...

    [ Edited by klesterjr On 2012/6/11 20:10 ]
  • »2012/6/12 1:06
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    Is it a Pegasos 2? That one has two Ethernets, one 100MBit and one Gigabit (see the Peg2 manual of which is which). If you connect one of these, then you must disable the other in the Netstack preferences. That usually does the trick! :-)




    This is not factual. You dont need to disable anything they both work out of the box.

    Congratulations to Morphos Team for 3.0! Another nice milestone. Look fwd to trying it.
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  • »2012/6/12 3:11
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    @kamelito

    Only difference I see to my OS X install I had here is that there is no Dock on Ambient by default.

    And not sure is it really that difficult to use. My gf is using it on PowerBook and is not having problem to use MorphOS but never paid any attention to wallpapers or theme.
  • »2012/6/12 4:58
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    But in case you don't know AmigaOS (and MorphOS), the icons of Odyssey Web Browser and Transfer you can see are just there because the person who made this grab iconified them on desktop... There's really nothing wrong with supporting appicons in the desktop, you know. :)


    My point was just a mean to say how empty the Morphos desktop is but yeah I didn't knew that for Morphos as for AmigaOS it has been forgotten but AFAIR it was not built in Amiga OS classic but done by 3rd party tools.
    Kamel
  • »2012/6/12 5:54
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    Am i wrong or (over 3D for R300 and any form of wireless support..) also new transparent panels are missing in this 3.0 release!? :-(

    I can't get transparent docks, what I can see in 3.0 are the usuas old shitty docks, nothing new in this area.

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    Am i wrong or (over 3D for R300 and any form of wireless support..) also new transparent panels are missing in this 3.0 release!?


    I'm sure Wolfie will be able to supply you a several month old link making it quite clear that these won't come for 3.0.

    Current statements by the team suggest that 3.1 will be a bug-fix-only release which might be released relativly soon.

    So yes they won't go in before 3.2....

    On the upside, my latest build is from late April and sofar I did not get a single complaint so intregration with the main Ambient line could start right now.

    I could supply you with a link to that build, but you would loose other Ambient-improvements (like that thumbnail stuff).
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  • »2012/6/12 9:14
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    I am badly awaiting an integrated dock system that can give transparent docks since years!!
    Is it a so hard function to implement!? I use MorphOS since its first release and still need to use polynet to have a so stupid function! In my personal opinion all this is so absurd!

    I don't want to always complain but the only 3 things that I really wanted were 3D support for R300, wireless support (also the atheros showed months ago would have been enough to start) and tansparent docks and saldy after 2 years it seems I have still to wait..
    I am not saying that they have been confirmed, i perfectly know that was explained that we had to forget about that for 3.0 but it's really sad to see that the 3 functions that I was awayting for are still not here..

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    I am with you there, I have been wayting for new dock since 1.4.5 and still nothing.

    Then I would love a working intergrated UAE that would be easy to use.

    Dont get me wrong, I love MorphOS, but as a user there are many things that I would love to se uppdated, not only new hardware suport.

    Then it would be nice if they kould update the gui and give us somthing a litle bit more modern.
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    > as a user there are many things that I would love
    > to se uppdated, not only new hardware suport.

    According to the MorphOS 3.0 release notes, only 13% of updated/new components have to do with the introduction of PowerBook support.
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    Then it would be nice if they kould update the gui and give us somthing a litle bit more modern.


    Like Metro? Like Gnome 3? Like all those stupid iPad stuff they stick into Snow Leopard to justify the point release?

    Like Unity?

    Thanks, but no thanks.
  • »2012/6/14 17:16
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    Then it would be nice if they kould update the gui and give us somthing a litle bit more modern.


    Like Metro? Like Gnome 3? Like all those stupid iPad stuff they stick into Snow Leopard to justify the point release?

    Like Unity?

    Thanks, but no thanks.


    You probably meant Lion, but I tend to agree on that one, a nice populated dock is the bare minimum to me, sure for the PowerBook wifi is a must have.

    Kamel
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    If you find deault GUI poor and/or ugly and hate ferox skin like me give a look at the pack I released some time ago:


    http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8135&forum=9#87434

    Advise: it seems that with MOS 3.0 something in MUI management changed and my MUI config is not loaded perfectly anymore (some frames are no more loaded). I'll update it when I'll have some free time.

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  • »2012/6/14 21:12
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    If you find deault GUI poor and/or ugly and hate ferox skin like me give a look at the pack I released some time ago:


    http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8135&forum=9#87434

    Advise: it seems that with MOS 3.0 something in MUI management changed and my MUI config is not loaded perfectly anymore (some frames are no more loaded). I'll update it when I'll have some free time.


    Thanks I'll test it.
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    New user will not compare Morphos with Amiga OS 3.x, they will compare it to Windows 7, or OSX Lion or Ubuntu, no more no less. It's not up to the user to tweak the OS to be able to have something usable or that look "professional", it's should be made by default.
    Of course the MOS Team has put a lot of effort on this release but to attract new users the first contact should be the best possible based on today standard not the one of 1992.


    Exactly.
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