Here's another bug:

When I use the PM system on this page OWB eats up the CPU (reaching 100%) during a good 10 - 20 seconds. I don't have this problem with my Ibook 1,33 GHz, but on my much faster G5 2,7 GHz. Fab, do you know why?

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Yeah, I must admit that sticking with IBrowse would be quite a challenge nowadays :)

jPV,
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I couldn't imagine! When I came back to MorphOS a few years back, OWB is probably the one app that kept me back for good. Not having a competent browser in this day and age is a complete show stopper. I find very little lacking about OWB and in many ways better than the browsers on my PC.

When I use OWB and look into the bug SBar I get a lot of messages like this:
MUIP_AskMinMax : bogus min=9822/22 def=9822/22 max=10000/22 mmok=y obj=0x26bfef80(titleclass)MorphZone
MUIP_AskMinMax : bogus min=9822/22 def=9822/22 max=10000/22 mmok=y obj=0x26bfef80(titleclass)MorphZone
MUIP_AskMinMax : bogus min=9822/22 def=9822/22 max=10000/22 mmok=y obj=0x26bfef80(titleclass)MorphZone
MUIP_AskMinMax : bogus min=9822/22 def=9822/22 max=10000/22 mmok=y obj=0x26bfef80(titleclass)MorphZone

Why do they come up?

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That's just debug from MUI (title.mui tab object), and it's not a bug in OWB. Consider it harmless.

OK. But has it to be written hundreds of times in a row? I think this makes the purpose of a debug log quite useless because it should contain the important information on call but not flooding the logfile.

Not sure if this is a bug or what, but I was using ebay with OWB, to pay for something and it initiated an error requester that read as follows:

Unable to open 'https://checkout.payments.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?XOProcessor&item=xxxxxxxxxxxx&transactionid=-1&quantity=1&rev=-1&rsp=true&'.
Error 60: Peer certificate cannot be authorised with given CA certificates.

Obviously the item number has been "xxx"'d out, but that was the wording of the error - does this mean an SSL certificate was not read correctly, or what?

I should also add that this was the second time I had this issue today.

I closed/quit OWB, and re-started it (without re-booting) and the same error requester was prompted to the front of the OWB screen, so I actually rebooted the whole system, and then re-started OWB, and it went through the whole process without prompting this issue, and I paid for the item without any unusual issues.

Just thought FAB ought to know, in case it needs looking into.

> I was using ebay with OWB, to pay for something and it initiated an error requester that
> read as follows: [...] does this mean an SSL certificate was not read correctly, or what?

"Some SSL websites show a certificate error requester!
-> Maybe they're not certified. You can either update "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file, or ignore SSL errors by enabling "Ignore SSL errors" in Settings/Security."
http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/owb-morphos-1.20.readme

Have you enabled this setting?

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Are you saying (quoting from the v1.20 readme.txt file) that ebay are not going to be certfied for SSL certificates?

The error requester came up twice on one day, possibly just on ebay, and I re-tried the page link twice, and got the same error requester. I quit OWB, and re-started it (without-rebooting) and got the same error requester on the same link ... BUT when I rebooted my MorphOS system, a couple of minutes later, if that, the error didn't come up again.

So it sounds like it is more likely to be an OWB issue, or some other interraction with a program that had brought about the prompt of the error requester, I'm not saying it was, just that it might have been the cause, and then not even a problem within OWB as such - I just don't know, but I really doubt that it was caused by ebay not being SSL certified - as that sounds highly unlikely.

I was only mentioning this to bring it to FAB's attention, in case it's an OWB issue - as I don't know what caused it.

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Andreas_Wolf wrote:
You can either update "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file

So where do I get the latest MorphOS compatible version of "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file from?

Would it be ... http://curl.haxx.se/download.html as that is now showing version 7.33.0, and OWB v1.20 shows version 7.28.1 of "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file, I just wouldn't want to place a file in the OWB folder that isn't going to work with it.

I have the "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file that is dated the 13-April-2011 - which came with OWB 1.20, so I take it this is not the latest/most up to date file?

However, if "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file is just a text file that any browser that uses the "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file then I'll download it as soon as you let me know.

I know there were issues with "curl-ca-bundle.crt" in earlier issues with OWB, and I reported "www.parcel2go.com" as being one site I could not access with OWB, but I think that was an "asp" issue, but in someway connected with SSL, that has since been fixed, so of recent everything has run smoothly - a compliment to FAB's great work, and for that matter anyone else on the development team for OWB.

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No, I had seen the option when I first started using OWB, but thought it would be better to see SSL error messages in case a certificate was out-of-date rather than let the browser just ignore it, if that option would be what it would enable, though I am grateful to you for bringing it to my attention.

> Are you saying (quoting from the v1.20 readme.txt file) that ebay are not going to be
> certfied for SSL certificates?

I don't know what the status of eBay with regard to SSL certificates is or is going to be.

> I quit OWB, and re-started it (without-rebooting) and got the same error requester on
> the same link ... BUT when I rebooted my MorphOS system, a couple of minutes later,
> if that, the error didn't come up again.

Just a guess, but maybe eBay uses different certificates on different servers and OWB was directed to another server when you tried minutes later, which opposed to the former server has a certificate that's in OWB's certificate bundle.

> it sounds like it is more likely to be an OWB issue

This may well be. I guess only Fab can tell.

> where do I get the latest MorphOS compatible version of "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file from?
> Would it be ... http://curl.haxx.se/download.html as that is now showing version 7.33.0,
> and OWB v1.20 shows version 7.28.1 of "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file [...]. I have the
> "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file that is dated the 13-April-2011 - which came with OWB 1.20, so
> I take it this is not the latest/most up to date file? However, if "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file is
> just a text file that any browser that uses the "curl-ca-bundle.crt" file then I'll download
> it as soon as you let me know.

It's not about MorphOS compatibility but about OWB compatibility. Furthermore, 7.28.1 and 7.33.0 are version numbers of cURL, not specifically of the certificates bundle. cURL, which is the component using the curl-ca-bundle.crt file, is built into the OWB binary and can't be updated by anyone but Fab. The curl-ca-bundle.crt file is user-updatable, though. You may want to refer to this older thread (which is about Fab's OWB on OS4, though) for instructions and discussion on how to update the curl-ca-bundle.crt file:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34010&forum=32#625552

> I reported "www.parcel2go.com" as being one site I could not access with OWB,
> but I think that was an "asp" issue, but in someway connected with SSL

It was first suspected to be an SSL issue, but it proved to have nothing to do with it:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=9174&start=10

> that has since been fixed, so of recent everything has run smoothly - a compliment to
> FAB's great work, and for that matter anyone else on the development team for OWB.

Parcel2Go now working is more a result of Nadir's work than of Fab's.

I don't know if the error requester related to trying to pay for an item is an ebay or OWB issue, but I just tried to pay for something else and had the same issue,

Unable to open 'https://checkout.payments.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?XOProcessor&item=xxxxxxxxxxxx&transactionid=-1&quantity=1&rev=-1&rsp=true&'.
Error 60: Peer certificate cannot be authorised with given CA certificates.

yet the same solutiion resolved it, - REBOOT, but there must be something wrong if a reboot is required to clear the issue/error and allow me to pay for an item. In which case surely it isn't at the ebay end?

Facebook makes MOS freeze.

Hi all, I have been using my MacMini 1,5Ghz with MOS 3.2 for a long time now. I use it in my work as a 2nd computer to do testing of webpages and webshops.

I have found it to be very stable and reliable and I often leave the computer on whole days with open webpages,

I have noticed if I leave Facebook open - after a certain time (hours) the computer freeze and need to be restarted.

It can be the screensaver is freezed.

My conclusion is it only happens when facebook is open.

Anyone else experienced this with OWB / Mac Mini?

Br/Tomas

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Erm, there are 2 different possible causes, but only one of them would make MorphOS "freeze".

1. Chat audio notifications make Odyssey crash : it's caused by a 32bits overflow in ffmpeg support for audio-only media. This is fixed for Odyssey 1.21.

2. Facebook eats tons of memory, and webkit javascriptcore tends to forget freeing everything it allocates. I even added special treatment to call garbage collector more often, but it still leaks a bit. That said, even if memory is exhausted, Odyssey DOESN'T freeze. At worst, it displays a message requester telling there's not enough memory left, and it lets you quit if you want.

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It's more a network issue in my opinion. Certificates for paypal are up to date in the provided certificate file, and Odyssey doesn't randomly fail to send certificates, unless network connection got flaky for some reason, or that some proxy does weird things about it.

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Thanks for the quick reply.

However, can you explain why I tried about 3 times to get through the link, with "ignore SSL errors" unticked, on each occasion, yet as soon as I had rebooted MorphOS and re-launched OWB/relevant webpage I got through, using the same weblink/page that would not let me through to the link before I rebooted.

As I said this has happened 3 times, and I could accept a coincidence twice, but 3 times and I'd have to call that unusual, otherwise known as some incompatibility/bug somewhere, at least that is what I think, as I don't have an proxies chosen or running at my end of the network.

I hadn't had any drop-outs on the network either, but of course a flaky network connection might cause it, but again - THREE separate occasions, I don't think so.

The following is not truly OWB bug but I hope somehow it can be dealt with: During the recent month(s), I have zero chances of success into playing a YT video. Only one (!) loaded successfully and I must have clicked through hundreds of them, dammit! And the one that worked was uploaded by me (lol) to my channel but didn't had a fullscreen button, wtf? Of course I have the scripts updated/enabled + YT html 5 support, but still...

OTHOH, other html5 video streaming services that starts with *you*, work correctly, if you know what I mean ;)

Cool_amigaN,
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I had the same problem, but after search many comments the solution is this:

-No need yt html5 support.
-Install flash and make enabled if not. (it needs only to spoof yt to think you will begin with flash, but replay of course will be html5)
-update the latest script (if not already)

Now every yt clip loaded.




[ Edited by Derringer 12.11.2013 - 08:53 ]

I don't know if this is an OWB bug or not but ...

I have several Google Mail accounts. Now, when I try to log into any one of them that's not my main account I still get logged into my main account. I don't know if the fact that I use the same password for both mail makes a difference.

I can confirm that it does work with Firefox (25.0.1) in Windows but not with OWB. In Firefox I can switch accounts, in OWB I can not (always returns to my main account).

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I just created a second gmail account, and i can switch between them without issue in Odyssey (at least in 1.21, but the behaviour shouldn't differ from currently released 1.20). Maybe clear your conf/cookies.db file, just in case.

I tried this and it worked until I saved both passwords in OWB. Then the same problem started again.

Have you tried having the same password in both accounts?

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Ah, but do you mean it's about the pre-filled login/password? If you re-type it, it definitely has to work. The pre-filled password might be the one of the first stored account (though you say both passwords are identical)...

Yes. But it's wierd that when I try to log into account #2 I still get transfered to account #1 for no good reason. And this doesn't happen with Firefox.

This is a new thing though with Gmail. Maybe some later webcits have already fixed this problem?

I'm back from work and tried this again. This time I deleted the passwords instead of cookies and I got the same strange results. Sometimes it logs in correctly, sometimes not (goes to account #1).

But I did find a workaround. I logged into my main account and choosed "Add another account". When logging in into my main account and choosing my other account inside of it I go to the other one without any problems. Since this takes about as much time as to logging out one account and logging into the other it's a very practical workaround indeed

on surveymonkey.com I cannot click buttons to activate them. they stay off when I click them, nothing happens. Is this an OWB bug or WebKit?