Re: 73 available systems for MorphOS 3.2
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
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    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65055

    Possibly a lot of errors, this was "a first try".

    Any comments? Suggestions?

    :-)

    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma 29.05.2013 - 01:08 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Any comments? Suggestions?

    The 'Genesi hardware' posting lacks 'Pegasos 2, 750CXe G3 @ 600MHz'.
    And you may want to add this in a separate posting (or to the 'PowerMac G4' posting):

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=6835&start=23
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=8913&start=16
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    anyone has a link on how to upgrade in the best manner? Is that advisable - read somewhere you should to a clean install?
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    TomKeric,
    Quote:

    anyone has a link on how to upgrade in the best manner? Is that advisable - read somewhere you should to a clean install?


    Burn the ISO file on CD and reboot from it. Select Update option from IWizard (which opens automatically). That shouldn't cause any problems (unless you've modified mossys: or something illegal like that).

    In any case, it's good to have up to date backups somewhere.

    [ Edited by jPV 29.05.2013 - 11:09 ]
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    takemehomegrandma
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    @Andreas_Wolf

    Good and valid points, now added to the list!

    :-)
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  • »29.05.13 - 10:06
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    I have a backup so then I'll just burn the CD and get going - thanks //Tomas
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    I get MorphOS boot.img is too old? How can that be when I have downloaded and burnt the new ISO CD?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I get MorphOS boot.img is too old? How can that be when I have downloaded
    > and burnt the new ISO CD?

    Downloading and burning doesn't suffice. You also have to boot from it. The MorphOS 3.2 installer can't work when started from the MorphOS 3.1 boot.img.
  • »04.06.13 - 15:32
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    Hi Andreas, thanks for answering (as always)

    I hold "C" and boot from CD, get the language and keyboard choice, directly after that I get the message "MorphOS boot.img is too old , in order to boot from MorphOS CD type boot/pci/cd to the OpenFirmware prompt."

    Hard to know what does that mean for a novice?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    I should say I have Chrysalis installed, otherwise it is 3.1 unchanged. i have dual OS and a MacMini 1.5ghz
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Jambalah
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    Hi TomKeric!
    I can't say if this could help but upgrading 3.2 on Pegasos made the same effect. I solved typing "boot cd boot.img" in open firmware. Maybe it's possible to do the same thing in Mac open firmware, typing f.e. "boot/pci/cd boot.img". Answers welcome =)
    As I've read in another thread someone else had problems with installation and this is one seems to be an easy solution:
    3.2 installation
    Assuming you have downloaded the newest ISO, of course.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I hold "C" and boot from CD, get the language and keyboard choice, directly after
    > that I get the message "MorphOS boot.img is too old , in order to boot from
    > MorphOS CD type boot/pci/cd to the OpenFirmware prompt."
    > Hard to know what does that mean for a novice?

    I'd say this means that booting from CD fails for whatever reason so that OpenFirmware defaults to loading the boot.img from your hard drive instead. The magic key combination for entering OpenFirmware is CMD+OPT+O+F. Hold them concurrently when booting and do as the error message says.
    And btw, if you downloaded the MorphOS 3.2 ISO during the initial 4 hours, you should re-download it. There was an error that made booting the CD impossible on Mac.
  • »04.06.13 - 16:25
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > As I've read in another thread someone else had problems with installation
    > and this is one seems to be an easy solution: 3.2 installation
    > Assuming you have downloaded the newest ISO, of course.

    This solution was for the initial buggy ISO. Of course, that's not to say it won't help him even with the fixed ISO where the reason for a boot failure must be different.
  • »04.06.13 - 16:33
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Jambalah
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    Agree Andreas, since I've upgraded MorphOS on MDD really flawless (reboot and C pressed).
    I hope his only problem is he had the wrong ISO..
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    >>And btw, if you downloaded the MorphOS 3.2 ISO during the initial 4 hours, you should re-download it. There was an error that made booting the CD impossible on Mac.

    I downloaded it earlier today from the morphos.org, the "german" prime site

    suspect1: Can it be that it is Chrysalis causing this?
    suspect2: Can it be that I have 2 OS and partitions causing this? (OSX is on the other partition)
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  • »04.06.13 - 18:37
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    after cmd+opt+o+f , come to opem firmware

    0>

    I enter "boot/pci/cd"
    replies "boot/pci/cd, unkown word, HERE= ff9e10e4"

    still stuck then....
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Jambalah
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    I guess you should insert a space between "boot" command and slash.
    http://safir.amigaos.se/bildgalleri/users2/13562_bild%285%29.JPG

    [ Edited by Jambalah 04.06.2013 - 20:27 ]
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  • »04.06.13 - 19:26
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    Weird (!) thanks I'll test it on Friday when I am back in the office where I use MOS.

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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    I have now tested again with "boot /pci/cd" and it returns "Cant't open device or file"

    It seems I am not possible to upgrade my 3.1 installation. I only have 2 things I know of that is different compared to a clean 3.1 installation:

    suspect1:Chrysalis - Can it be that it is Chrysalis causing this?
    suspect2:Dual OS - Can it be that I have 2 OS and partitions causing this? (OSX is on the other partition)

    I don't know where to go from here - suppose i shouldn't be the only one so it would be good to find the reason and the solution for my sito

    Help is much appreciated :)

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  • »07.06.13 - 08:26
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    geit
    Posts: 1031 from 2004/9/23
    Quote:

    TomKeric wrote:
    I have now tested again with "boot /pci/cd" and it returns "Cant't open device or file"

    It seems I am not possible to upgrade my 3.1 installation. I only have 2 things I know of that is different compared to a clean 3.1 installation:



    The CD should always boot.If not there are just a few reasons:

    1. Keyboard is not working properly or you pushed the C-key to early. Push right at the chime.
    2. Your drive is dying.
    3. The MorphOS 3.2 CD/ISO used is from the first 4 hours after release.

    If you get the "boot.img is too old" message and you are sure you used a recent version of the iso, then you simply did not boot from CD. e.g. the C-key did not work. Try pressing and holding ALT. Then wait for the CD icon to appear, select it and push continue.

    That is the only way to be sure you actually booted the CD for real.

    If even booting the graphical boot menu fails with "boot image is too old" message, then you mixed up the broken CD/ISO with the recent one at some point. Compare files MD5 with the one on the download page.

    If you want to avoid (or create) trouble - this is on your own risk, boot up 3.1, launch mounter and make the hfs boot partition visible. Insert the CD, pick up the boot.img from mac_ppc32 drawer and copy it over to that partition. Do not use any other boot.img file. ppc64 is for g5 only and will not work on a g4. Open a shell and call HFSSetMacBoot. Use the new boot.img as argument. Now reboot without pressing anything. It should boot the cd, so you can install.

    Again, be warned. If your drive or your media is broken, you render your system useless when doing this. CD booting should always work! The MorphOS CD is not just some installation CD. It comes handy for fixing and repairing installations, so you should try to find out what the real issue is.

    Geit

    [ Edited by geit 07.06.2013 - 10:03 ]
  • »07.06.13 - 08:58
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @Tomas,

    Are you using an Apple keyboard or a PC keyboard?

    Holding 'C' down at boot has never worked on a PC keyboard on any Mac I've used (eMac, several PowerMacs, Intel Macbook Pro).
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  • »07.06.13 - 12:12
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TomKeric
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    Dear all,

    - I use an apple keyboard
    - It boots from the CD -yes my drive works fine
    - I downloaded the ISO last week from the Main site Germany on MorphOS download page
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  • »10.06.13 - 10:15
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