Printer Bounty
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    NewSense
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    Don't I need to be authorised to be able to do that initially? :-?
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1062 from 2003/2/15
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    zukow
    Posts: 477 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
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    NewSense wrote:
    Thanks Zukow for updating Ghostscript v8.70 though I rarley use it now, seeing as I have managed to work out/fix myself the "Printers" system to work with my HP 2500 Colour LaserJet PostScript printer using the USBPAR: device that you implemented in the Beta "Printers" system, but forgot to add into the v3.10 release of "Printers".

    Can I take it that:

    1. The USBPAR: or an improved USB printing device will be offered with v3.11+?
    2. The Compatible Printers list for MorphOS will be updated with my printer, so other users can know it is compatible?
    3. Other printers that users use with MorphOS of whatever make/model will also be updated onto the compatibility list for all to benefit from. ;-)

    As the printers list is basically the oldest, most out of date, hardware related information that is in the MorphOS library and offered as being compatible. Though where you would acquire such old printers from, outside of a museum, is baffling. :-?


    Hi,

    So ...

    1) Yes, USBPAR: is added to 3.11, i'll probably add some Generic Postscript driver which should work with most postscript printers. More changes will come in 3.12.
    2) Compatibility list is based on Turboprint list
    3) Virtually all Postscript printers works with MorphOS, they just need proper PPD files. We can make some list of working models with URLs to correct PPD file. If this list would be more that 20 items i could also add some autoconfiguration mode with downloading ppd from network.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    NewSense
    Posts: 672 from 2012/11/10
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    zukow wrote: So ...

    1) Yes, USBPAR: is added to 3.11, i'll probably add some Generic Postscript driver which should work with most PostScript printers. More changes will come in 3.12.

    So, when is v3.12 likely to be following on the heels of v3.11, and when is v3.11 likely to be released anyway?
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    zukow wrote: 2) Compatibility list is based on Turboprint list

    I gathered as much, because most, if not all, the printers on that list haven't been sold/available in stores for about 10 years, maybe even more, which is when the Classic Amiga TurboPrint releases stopped. So the list needs to be updated urgently, which is why I've made the remark.
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    ASiegel wrote: The MorphOS Library is a community-managed resource. Please feel free to add uptodate information regarding new printers that are known to work with MorphOS.

    How many different printers do you think I own? :-?

    This forum or some other way of reporting hardware that works with current, or even later versions of MorphOS should be made available for users to tell you that, this or that printer, or whatever piece of hardware, be that a USB audio device or Webcam, or whatever piece of hardware it is, has, in the future, been found to work stably, without problems, or to let you know there are problems, so you can fix them for other MorphOS users to gain the benefit.

    It also needs to be made simple to use/make such a report or users probably won't bother to tell you, and the list won't get updated, which is the situation we're in now.

    I can add the one I own to the library, once I have gone through the process of requesting authority to be able to update the community part of the library, as you have requested me to do, though I feel sure you could add the information yourself far more simply than going to the trouble of writing your remark asking me to do it, as you're already authorised. :-(

    But hey! I'll do it for everyone else ......... that's the spirit. :-) :bloons:

    [EDIT] I have now made that request to ... library [at] morphos-user.com ..... waiting to hear back now. :-)

    Though for me, it's a lot of trouble to have to do it, when it should already have been updated by those on the Development Team who are aware that I have already said I own such a printer that works with MorphOS, to keep the information about printer compatibility up-to-date, but seeing as it's about 10 years out of date, maybe that's too much to ask .... but it also needs to be added to the compatibility list on the MorphOS HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY page - Any idea how I would manage to do that, to save you writing a request for me to join the Development Team so I could save you or someone else doing what they need to do, that I won't, in any case, be allowed to do? :-?

    The main MorphOS website should be as up-to-date as possible, but printer information is a long way out of date.
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    zukow wrote: 3) Virtually all Postscript printers work with MorphOS, they just need proper PPD files. We can make some list of working models with URLs to correct PPD file. If this list would be more that 20 items i could also add some autoconfiguration mode with downloading ppd from network.

    That would be a GREAT IDEA. I have my HP 2500 CLJ PostScript printer working, but other users may need some easier route to get their printer working with MorphOS, and I'm sure any way you can automate it all will be a great addition to making the installation of a printer much easier in MorphOS. 8-D

    [ Edited by NewSense 20.06.2018 - 01:17 ]
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  • »20.06.18 - 01:06
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  • jPV
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    jPV
    Posts: 1415 from 2003/2/24
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    Maybe we should create a new page to the MorphOS Library for user reported compatibility list of all kinds of devices, and maybe we should decide the name and structure together? And then create a new thread here where to report, and then anyone who has account to the library can keep it up to date. MorphOS team can then pick content from it if wanted.

    What topic should we give to the page? This is the most important question now, because the topic also becomes its URL and that can't be changed that easily later.

    "Hardware Compatibility Reported by Users", "User Reported Hardware Compatibility", or something like that? Please suggest something suitable and proper English :)


    Then in which format it should be? Couple examples I have in mind now:

    1)

    == Printers ==
    * HP blabla (Working)
    * Lexmark blabla (Working)
    * Samsung blabla (Not working)

    == USB Audio Devices ==
    * Bla bla (Working)
    * Ble ble (Working partially: output works, input doesn't)
    * Blä blä (Not working)


    2)

    == Printers ==
    === Working ===
    * HP blabla
    * Lexmark blabla
    === Not Working ===
    * Samsung blabla


    == USB Audio Devices ==
    === Working ===
    * Bla bla
    === Partially Working ==
    * Ble ble (output works, input doesn't)
    === Not Working ==
    * Blä blä


    Something like these?

    Edit: and maybe there should be mentions about if printer works through TurboPrint or PS... and of course all entries should have a mention on which version of MorphOS it was tested on, because they might work on later ones but the original reporter (or hw) isn't around to test again...

    [ Edited by jPV 20.06.2018 - 10:16 ]
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1062 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    @ jPV

    Just "Hardware Compatibility" is fine. Additional information regarding the sources of compatibility reports can be included on the page itself. Going forward, I would not rule out having sections with "official" and "user provided" lists either so it is good to stay flexible regarding the page title and URL.


    @ NewSense

    You should have received an email containing a temporary password. You might have to check your spam folder.
  • »20.06.18 - 09:01
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    NewSense
    Posts: 672 from 2012/11/10
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    ASiegel wrote: @ NewSense

    You should have received an email containing a temporary password. You might have to check your spam folder.

    Yes I have received that authorisation now, many thanks, and have updated my password for the site, but I'll probably liaise with jPV now on this matter as he has an interest in moving this topic forward as well, which is very thoughtful of him to show such an interest in the Hardware Compatibility issues. 8-)

    I agree keeping the topic simple, with sub-options for additional material on the subject is the way to go, for the moment at least. :-)
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