Amiganoid 2011 event
  • MorphOS Developer
    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    As I wrote there would be a bit more detailed post about the next MorphOS release, here it is...


    The idea is MorphOS 3.0 would be the next public version and will introduce support for PowerBook (only 15" and 17" PowerBook5,6-5,9 which are the two latest revisions RevD and RevE):

    - It will be a completely *free* (as in money free, nobody would have to pay) upgrade for already registered users.
    - There will probably be some experimental wireless support for a few external cardbus cards featuring WPA/WPA2. That was demonstrated in Essen.
    - There will be enhanced 3D drivers for the R2xx range of Radeon cards
    - Proper use of AGP bus has been added where reasonable and available, helping on some low vmem issues with Mac mini for example
    - There will be a builtin CD/DVD recording tool named Jalapeno.
    - There will be various other enhancements which are not disclosed yet.

    As a final note, G5 iMac/PowerMac support will not be released anytime soon. It was just some experiment. No development work is done on it. The focus is now on bug fixing and implementing remaining features for 3.0.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    And, BTW, the MorphOS SDK was updated a few hours ago.
    See http://www.morphos-team.net/news.html
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2053 from 2003/6/4
    Thank you foryour posting - now everybody should know what to expect for the next time. Sounds pretty promising. Will start to look for a good chance to buy a Powerbook over the next months.
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    Whenever you're sad just remember the world is 4.543 billion years old and you somehow managed to exist at the same time as David Bowie.
    ...and Matthias , my friend - RIP
  • »21.09.11 - 12:32
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    jacadcaps,
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    @Miky

    If it's <5,6 it is not going to be supported with the 3.0 release. It might get supported at some point, but I find that unlikely.


    Thanks for the info even if it makes me sad. I did not buy one of the very last models because it seems they are the ones that suffer more about problems like the display issue..

    PegasosII "Elite" Machine --> PowerMac MDD "popular" Machine --> MacMini 1.5 "still more popular" Machine
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2990 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    @miky

    We've always been saying we want to support 1.67GHz models.
  • »21.09.11 - 16:18
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  • Caterpillar
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    Aramon
    Posts: 35 from 2011/4/21
    From: Germany - Hamburg
    Thanks for the information :-)
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  • »21.09.11 - 16:43
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    kamelito
    Posts: 103 from 2011/9/21
    @Henes

    It's not specified but I suppose that Rev D&E with NVidia cards will not be supported right?

    Thanks
    Kamel
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > It's not specified but I suppose that Rev D&E with NVidia cards will not
    > be supported right?

    It is specified:

    "only 15" and 17""
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    kamelito
    Posts: 103 from 2011/9/21
    Well that mean the Powerbook G4 wiki is wrong as it state that it could be either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G4

    Kamel
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2990 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    We will support 5,6 to 5,9 models. The 12'' are 6,x.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    kamelito
    Posts: 103 from 2011/9/21
    Thanks

    Kamel

    A better link :
    http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/index-powerbook-g4.html
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > - There will be enhanced 3D drivers for the R2xx range of Radeon cards
    > [...]
    > - There will be various other enhancements which are not disclosed yet.

    Like R300 3D drivers? :-)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > that mean the Powerbook G4 wiki is wrong as it state that it could be either.

    No, it just means that Wikipedia is not specific enough.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    kolla
    Posts: 105 from 2003/4/22
    "featuring WPA/WPA2" means what exactly?
    Can I expect that CCMP and EAP-TLS over WPA2 Enterprise will work?
    -- kolla
  • »22.09.11 - 00:33
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    XDelusion
    Posts: 602 from 2010/10/27
    WONDERFUL NEWS!
    "I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it." - Jack Handey

    Registered MorphOS user, Amiga user, and Atari 8-bit user.
  • »22.09.11 - 04:23
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    there will not be an ARM or x86 port in 12 months plus 1 day ;-)


    So now it's just 12 months minus 2 days left then! Wohoo! ;-) :-P
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »22.09.11 - 07:46
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    takemehomegrandma,
    Quote:

    there will not be an ARM or x86 port in 12 months plus 1 day


    So now it's just 12 months minus 2 days left then! Wohoo!



    Personally I've neve dreamed about a next to come x86 porting, so I'd like to ask: what you all see more sad? This or the fact that also G5 support will not be released anytime soon and has to be considered just some experiment?

    [ Edited by Miky060 22.09.2011 - 13:27 ]

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  • »22.09.11 - 12:25
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Sad for me is talking again and again for more hardware when for christ sake we already have huge database of HW! Do we never have enough? What would we do after G5 release? Moan about ARM, x86? Come on and let's focus on MorphOS itself.
    MorphOS 3.x
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    kamelito
    Posts: 103 from 2011/9/21
    Mac PPC HW is not viable in the long run. It's a good news to know that new architectures are planned. For now Mac HW are more than enough, what we need is more software, a "dream" would be a killer app...

    Kamel
    PS hopefully I'll get a second hand G4 Powerbook soon...
  • »22.09.11 - 13:02
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2053 from 2003/6/4
    pampers,
    Quote:



    Precisely - "Live your life everday as if it were your last day".
    Wile a good share of dreaming and future planning is good though, it is wise to use now what is actually available today.
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    http://via.bckrs.de

    Whenever you're sad just remember the world is 4.543 billion years old and you somehow managed to exist at the same time as David Bowie.
    ...and Matthias , my friend - RIP
  • »22.09.11 - 13:13
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
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    My personal opinion is that porting MorphOS to a totally new architecture (read x86 in all its millions version of motherboards an cpus..) is much much much more complicated than just develop a stable version on G5 Powermacs. We're still speaking about a PowerPC CPU so it's not really a "porting", it's a much more achievable/doable thing. In my opinion speaking about the possibility to port a hobbist OS with little developer team to a totally new architecture like x86.. yes THAT is a DREAM!

    PegasosII "Elite" Machine --> PowerMac MDD "popular" Machine --> MacMini 1.5 "still more popular" Machine
  • »22.09.11 - 13:45
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    kamelito
    Posts: 103 from 2011/9/21
    If x86 is the target architecture I see no problem there. It's just a matter of selecting a few HW configurations. Just do what Apple do. If I were the MOS Team, I will even sell the HW myself so you know that it'll work and be supported. (or work with an HW vendor)
    The only drawback is that many will want to keep their X86 box and will want Morphos to just work on it.
    Others will just do like the "Hackintosh team".

    But is x86 even mentioned somewhere?

    Kamel

    [ Edité par kamelito 22.09.2011 - 17:11 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 657 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    Everyone should enjoy MorphOS on his current hardware. At least I'm doing that.
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  • Just looking around
    Oli716
    Posts: 16 from 2011/9/18
    analogkid,
    Quote:

    Everyone should enjoy MorphOS on his current hardware. At least I'm doing that.

    signed.
    Used G4 MacHW is really cheap and affordable (starts at 29€ at ebay) and power is plenty enough for everydays use.
    Much more important, in my opinion, is to have unique and high quality software and games.
    It already exists a X86 Amiga like OS for free, what should be the reasons for one prefering MorphOS instead of and pay for it?
  • »22.09.11 - 18:24
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    osco
    Posts: 680 from 2009/10/21
    From: Boston, USA
    Arexx and legacy apps. Custom workbench..OWB and MPayer. Have a Dual boot and use the Mac side rarely. Morph made by pros for pros. I have years if ever to reach potential of MorphOS. I am registered with a macmini and soon a PowerBook.
    Keep flying all
    :bloons: :bloons:
    Mac Mini 1.5GHz, 1G, 250G Drive, Apple Cinema Display, MorphOS 3.1 registered, MacOS 10 PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 80G Drive,........Waiting
    PowerBook (5,8) 1.67Hz, 2G, 40G MorphOS 3.1 unregisterd
  • »22.09.11 - 20:38
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