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    Poor buggers.
    They really used to be popular.
    Chances of them surviving don't look good.
    But hey, Bill's giving them old Amiga apps!
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    Acill
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    I dont even see how anything left could have any value. The patents have to be just about all expired, and if not they will be in two or less years.
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    Acill wrote:
    I dont even see how anything left could have any value. The patents have to be just about all expired, and if not they will be in two or less years.


    I'm confused.
    Do you mean Amiga Inc.'s patents or RIM's?
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    > Do you mean Amiga Inc.'s patents or RIM's?

    The former I'd say. Seems like he dared to reply to this thread in general instead of your or number6's particular posting ;-)
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    > http://www.os4online.com/2013/06/os4-line-of-products-becomes-amiga.html [...]
    > http://www.os4online.com/2013/06/our-new-logos.html [...]
    > http://www.os4online.com/2013/06/a-message-to-amiga-community.html
    > http://www.os4online.com/2013/06/new-options-to-hardware.html
    > http://www.os4online.com/2013/06/amiga-openlinux-amiga-enterprise-linux.html

    Probably more interesting regarding the scope of this site:

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
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    Jim,
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    I'm confused.
    Do you mean Amiga Inc.'s patents or RIM's?


    I meant Amiga related patents. The entire patent system was designed to protect a product for a finite numbers a years to recover and potentially profit on the designs patented. There is no way the original ones are valid for much longer, and any hardware ones are worthless at this point.

    Heck I work for Intel now and make stuff so far ahead of the processes used back then its like the stone age.

    20 years is the age, several are getting close to that or are way past it. Here are a few that were great ones.

    Multi CPU systems 1997: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=9&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=amiga.ASNM.&OS=an/amiga&RS=AN/amiga

    Universal Bus Connector: 1989 so its done with: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=9&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=amiga.ASNM.&OS=an/amiga&RS=AN/amiga

    Cursor controller user interface system 1986: Ah one of the great ones that had everyone scared: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=16&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=amiga.ASNM.&OS=an/amiga&RS=AN/amiga

    Hand operated control unit for video games: You know what this is im sure, in 1986 it was a big deal! : http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=17&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=amiga.ASNM.&OS=an/amiga&RS=AN/amiga

    And this one too: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=18&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=amiga.ASNM.&OS=an/amiga&RS=AN/amiga

    If you want to see more of them filed over the years : http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=an%2Famiga%0D%0A&d=PTXT

    And these are specific to just Commodore: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&f=S&l=50&d=PTXT&RS=AN%2Famiga&Refine=Refine+Search&Refine=Refine+Search&Query=an%2Fcommodore

    [ Edited by Acill 20.07.2013 - 21:36 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Andreas_Wolf

    You're replying to Jim, not to me.

    Edit: Thanks for correcting the name.

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 21.07.2013 - 14:12 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Jim wrote:
    Poor buggers.
    They really used to be popular.
    Chances of them surviving don't look good.
    But hey, Bill's giving them old Amiga apps!


    Adding my own sorcery to this thread Necromancy, the Blackberry Priv was a success, the first in years. Wasn't huge, but it didn't bomb like earlier BB offerings. And all without Amiga Inc and the games it ripped off and never released. Since now BB have gone the Android route, Amiga Inc's games are pointless - if indeed they were ever real, which I doubt. I wonder if BB know how much they dodged a bullet keeping away from the possibly-fictitious "Bill McEwen Jnr".

    Incidentally one of the games - K240 - was my favourite Amiga game ever, and one of the few games that were never ported to MS-DOS. As a game it wouldn't have translated well to mobile (just like all the others AInc were trying to hawk), but could have been turned into a pretty good tablet game with a bit of work (certainly better than its MS-DOS sequel, Fragile Alliance).

    And that's the shame. Games released under the Gremlin brand will probably never see the light of day again, whether it be Steam or Origin or any other remix. It adds just another precious relic of the past that the con outfit known as Amiga Inc has defecated on, and will be just one more sip of champagne for the parties when Bill finally goes to prison.

    [ Edited by KennyR 31.01.2016 - 15:01 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Too bad Moobunny archives are down. People like myself, Number6 and a few others were warning about the penny stock SCAM McBill got involved with at end.

    For those with short memories, Here you go. Amiga Games Inc was a worthless shell made out of thin air by McBill and sold to penny stock scam artists. MCBill was directly associated with this scam, first listed as an officer, than as a consultant. Either way it was clear to anyone who understood the history of Amiga that the shell was worthless, without any games and without any IP at all. They just used an empty shell to dump untold millions of shares on suckers to buy. Not one single game ever sold under Amiga Games Inc / Writer's Group. The inevitable happened and the stock non-stop cratered through multiple reverse splits and endless dilution. McBill and the "executives" behind Writer's Group cashed out something on stock sales, but "investors" were left holding the bag.

    Here's a simple chart to see what happened to the stock price. You don't need to be able to read charts to understand what happened.

    Chart.

    Basically after reverse splits the stock when from ~$180 per share at the so called Amiga Games Inc sale, to $0.10 today.

    Such a shame that "Amiga" went from a pioneer with such a rich history to an obvious penny stock pump and dump scam. Sigh...
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    Cool. Except for this, "They still own the EU mark "Amiga" though, which covers the entire EU territory", the trademark is now in the hand of people who actually have Amiga related products to sell.

    Perhaps AInc. will let that lapse as well.

    We now have valid entities which should control "Amiga", "AmigaOne", and "AmigaOS", or will control them in the near future.

    THAT certainly took far too long. And to think Bill could have sold that asset years ago and made at least some money.

    What an incredibly foolish man. Pity we had to suffer through all his machinations.
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    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
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    Cool. Except for this, "They still own the EU mark "Amiga" though, which covers the entire EU territory", the trademark is now in the hand of people who actually have Amiga related products to sell.

    Perhaps AInc. will let that lapse as well.

    We now have valid entities which should control "Amiga", "AmigaOne", and "AmigaOS", or will control them in the near future.

    THAT certainly took far too long. And to think Bill could have sold that asset years ago and made at least some money.

    What an incredibly foolish man. Pity we had to suffer through all his machinations.


    Well that's the first good thing about the Brexit I've seen lol
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