Multiple GFX card in Powermac
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    I had multiple GFX card in my Amiga.
    Because of what I recall be some init / OF limitations with the Radeon driver I had 2 in my peg (Voodoo AGP + Radeon PCI).
    Is there any multiple card combination supported with MorphOS 2.6 on Powermac ?
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  • Jim
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    Why not just try it and find out?
    If I had the energy to lug out an okd CRT monitor (to supplement my LCD) I'd plug in a Voodoo3 2000 PVI card to find out myself.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Because I do not have a PowerMac yet. This feature would motivate me getting one versus keep using the peg or getting a mac Mini / or waiting for Ibook / powerbook support.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    I guess I could put my Voodoo4 PCI in my powermac tomorow and find it out or you.

    I wouldn't mind having a dual display like you could have it on windows or macosx. But for now that isn't supported or is it ?

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/10/24 23:26 ]
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  • Jim
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    Heck of a question. I'm a little intimidated to try it (after all the spare monitor is in the guest bedroom and my Voodoo3 card is sitting in a pile with other unused cards)..
    Who wants to go first?
    If no one does this by tomorrow, I'll give it a try. I doubt they'll be any negetive consequences.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
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    well, i suppose, there should be some mui setup, like now, you can select own screen for a window, so why not to select an own monitor for a specific screen?

    bye, MarK.
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    Quote:

    well, i suppose, there should be some mui setup, like now, you can select own screen for a window, so why not to select an own monitor for a specific screen?


    Each screen has a configurable screen mode - which is where you pick the graphics card too.
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    magnetic
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    yeah exactly.. cdfr used to run his amiga with multiple cards and screens.. When I had an a4000T ppc with cybervision ppc I also had a cybervision 3d zorro3 and used to run 2 monitors with both cards.. Gfx programs and serious apps on one screen and internet and irc etc on the other. Its amazing in this way as there is no system slowdown as the gfx cards take most of the hits.

    It would be great if this works for pmac. Please test gentlemen. And post your results
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    It's actually possible with Amiga to have two different desktops? didn't know that.
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    Quote:


    Oepabakkes wrote:
    It's actually possible with Amiga to have two different desktops? didn't know that.



    And not just two, you can have even more. For example three PIVs in one a4k running apps and multiplayer game.

    Of course native display can be one display too... it's nice to play some video app on native display and simultaneous tune it's settings on RTG etc without having to take it "offline".
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    At my craziest Amiga time I use to have:
    [list]CV64
    CV643D
    Picasso IV
    Retina
    CVPPC [/list]
    + AGA
    All in a big tower with 7 Zorro 3.

    Here is a picture of my desk 5 years ago. I had downgraded to 5 screens then.

    The peg is on the left and had 3 Gfx card (voodoo AGP, radeon PCI, voodoo PCI if I recall well).

    43128703_80291ce8d0.jpg
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    Well I have a Voodoo4 in it now ... it does get recognized, now I am not sure how to make use of it...

    EDIT: I got Ambient on it ... but really messed up colors.

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/10/25 20:36 ]
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    magnetic
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    Oepabakkes

    Try 16bit screenmode see if that fixes it...

    @ thread

    someone mentioned PSA, I used to do that with peg1 when I had 2 voodoos with PSA on it! Pro Station audio has dual screen support built in!
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jcmarcos
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    jPV and cdfr, you crazy people! My jaw dropped at the sight of that multimonitor setup with bulky TUBE monitors!
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    amiades
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    jPV and cdfr, you crazy people! My jaw dropped at the sight of that multimonitor setup with bulky TUBE monitors!


    It remainded me of this:

    http://www.mccallspacompany.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/azure_open_lit.246124843_std.jpg
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    cdfr

    Just noticed the pic you are the sh8t : P
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    I still do not get the colors right on the Voodoo4 PCI ... the bootscreen does seem to be ok, but the desktop looks like a Ambient on Magic Mushrooms. Does the eycandy ( lucy, ... ) ask things from the voodoo it can't do ?

    I do not have any other card I could test unless a S3 Virge would work ?

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/10/26 20:39 ]

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/10/26 20:40 ]
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    @Oepabakkes

    Can you make a screenshot? If the screenshot is OK when viewed on another machine, then take a photo and post both. You could also try changing the screenmode from 24bit to 16 or 15 and see if that works OK.

    Lucy isn't going to work on Voodoo.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    i'll try that later. 16 bit already tried ... more or less the same. I also tried without Lucy.
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  • Jim
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    The first picture is, I assume, the Voodoo4.
    What's the second photo?

    You're doing better then everyone else, so far. I hope you keep trying to figure this out. Two seoerate desktops would be useful.

    BTW - Thanks for posting to the two trying to get their CDs booted. You're using an 800Mhz processor (so either that's a 7455 or it's not a prpblem).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    The second photo is a "printscreen" that I took with Grabber from the desktop and that should look the same as the first picture... what obviously is not the case.

    I expected the printscreen or the be normal or to be the same as the first picture ... but no, it's even worse.

    I am out of ideas concerning this, it tried every screenmode there is.

    About my CPU ... it's a 7540, I got the heatsink of to double check. But I have the orignal MACversion Radeon 7500 so if I am right that solves the problem.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Do you have the same issue if you have only the voodoo ?
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  • Jim
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    You've proven the teams' work around functions. The dual video card problem is troubling.

    So, your primary video card is a Radeon 7500 and your secondary card is a Vooddo4 PCI?

    I'm going to try adding my Voodoo3 200 PCI to my Radeon 9200 and see if I can get as far as you have.

    Please, keep up all the good work. you're helping prove so interesting ideas.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
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    Well about the voodoo, I can boot with it with the radeon removed but that doesn't really solve anything. The best result I had, was that the bootscreen seemed to be normal but still the desktop had the wacky colors.

    At first I tought the voodoo was giving a to high frequency ... but the screenshot be normal then I think ... and that's not the case.
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