The efika is dead, long live the Efika2!
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    Zylesea
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    http://www.genesippc.com/press.php?date=20070910

    As I see just now, Genesi chose the same topic as I did (more or less). the Efika is now anbandonware, but Efika2 is close.
    I am sure ;-) MOS-Team will support this board, too...

    Edit:
    The Efika is *not* abandonware. Only Genesi has stopped production and sales. Others are continuing.

    [ Edited by Zylesea on 2007/9/11 15:28 ]
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    ausPPC
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    Greaaat... This either makes me a saviour or an idiot - anyone care to flip a coin?

    The offer in my sig is still good - with the price back to $199 I may even be a good source for interested people in the US.

    Check out postal rates to your country -
    Australia Post (choose a parcel weight of 250g to 500g)

    Edited for typos & small clarification

    [ Edited by ausPPC on 2007/9/11 9:19 ]
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    jcmarcos
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    Quote:

    Zylesea wrote:

    MOS-Team will support this board, too...


    Whopee...! One more reason for delaying MorphOS 2.0 further!
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    Chain-Q
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    Whopee...! One more reason for delaying MorphOS 2.0 further!

    There's no need for this specific reason. The MorphOS Team hasn't run out of other reasons yet. :-)
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    Neko
    Posts: 301 from 2003/2/24
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    ausPPC,

    Think positive. You've practically cornered the non-US market in Efikas.
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    Neko
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    jcmarcos,

    It shouldn't delay MorphOS 2.0 at all, no more than it is already delayed anyway.
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    [ Edited by Velcro_SP 19.08.2011 - 16:11 ]
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    Phantom
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    It has been two years and four months since a MorphOS version for the Pegasos was released. I think that MorphOS Team should stop waiting and find a way to get their great new stuff to users.


    I will pray to that... :-)
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    Robin
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    Neko wrote:
    jcmarcos,

    It shouldn't delay MorphOS 2.0 at all, no more than it is already delayed anyway.


    Delay ? Never seen an official timetable ...
  • »11.09.07 - 11:42
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    srbin
    Posts: 44 from 2006/11/23
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    Oh no... $99 efika was my only way to get back into amiga waters, but with this and infinite waiting for MOS.... That's it.. And i am pretty sure ppl will start dissapointing as much as they did for OS4
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    jcmarcos
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    Quote:

    Neko wrote:
    jcmarcos,

    It shouldn't delay MorphOS 2.0 at all, no more than it is already delayed anyway.


    I don't blame Genesi at all for MorphOS 2.0 delays, of course.
    In the other hand, please, bring Efika 2 to market as soon as possible! It looks like a very nice computer.
    I hope you can help the MorphOS team to create the neccesary new drivers. For example, in the video department, CyberGraphX programmers have never had any experience with PowerVR chipsets.
    Is it very hard to write a driver for such a hardware?
    Also, the new "3Dlayers" system means that the driver should also have 3D supports, so it's not enough with a plain 2D driver.
    In the audio department things are easier, but I guess that an AHI driver with AXE support(the DSP funciton of the MPC 5121e) would be very desirable...
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    billt
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    Too bad, I was trying to buy one. I'd pay $99 tha twe were promised for so long and only recently actually happened. I won't pay Directron's $199.95 price, or other prices higher than that from other sellers. Boooooooooooo!

    If Efika2 has the same $99 price then I may still be in, if we get some indication that MOS will run on it as it is supposed to be released for Efika1 someday. If it costs more, then it won't meet my promise to buy if it ever does reach the once fabled $99 price. And without MOS it will likely only gather dust on a shelf, as I don't have any use for yet another Linux box.

    Have there been any hints to the price of Efika2?

    [ Edited by billt on 2007/9/11 14:44 ]
  • »11.09.07 - 18:37
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    Krashan
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    an AHI driver with AXE support (the DSP funciton of the MPC 5121e) would be very desirable...

    The only task of AHI driver is to deliver samples from a program to the audio hardware. I see no application of AXE here.
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
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    Quote:


    srbin wrote:
    Oh no... $99 efika was my only way to get back into amiga waters, but with this and infinite waiting for MOS.... That's it.. And i am pretty sure ppl will start dissapointing as much as they did for OS4

    So let me get this straight. Now its a BAD thing that we get new hardware? :-)
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    Today - What sizes are the biggest TFT monitors that display the 1024 x 768 resolution natively (that is without "blurring" the picture by resampling it to fit its real native resolution)?
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  • »12.09.07 - 01:45
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    I think perhaps a quick clarification is required...the Efika1 is still available for purchase from Directron, (http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?catalog=directron&query=EFIKA+-so%3A+-dis%3A&mysetin=EFIKA&.autodone=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.directron.com%2F)
    if I am reading bbrv's latest blog post correctly:

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    We are changing our business model. We no longer sell the EFIKA based on the 5200B (Le Roi est mort. Vive le Roi!). Directron does.

    http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2007/09/engineering-engagement.html

    That said, at $199 I think I'll be waiting for the Efika 2 :)
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    Zylesea
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    The Efika as well as the Efika2 is not targeted to the desktop
    primarily. For many purposes a 1024x768 pixel resolution is
    sufficient. If you want to have more gfx power, add a gfx card. the
    pci/agp port will stay there I assume.
    Of course a higher resolution would be welcome, but so is a L2 cache,
    some hundred more MHz and so on...
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    jcmarcos
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    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:
    Quote:

    jcmarcos wrote:
    an AHI driver with AXE support (the DSP funciton of the MPC 5121e) would be very desirable...

    The only task of AHI driver is to deliver samples from a program to the audio hardware. I see no application of AXE here.


    Ouch! Me dumb. Of course you are right. AXE is interesting to codecs, so I guess Reggae is the place to look at.
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    downix
    Posts: 105 from 2003/2/10
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    I tried to order one of those $99 units right before the new announcement but missed apparently by minutes, as the "buy now" redirect changed from the time I changed compters. Cesa la'vie. In any case, I'll wait till the EKiFA2 arrives.. then again I'm a big fan of the PowerVR, I even use one of them in my Linux box.
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    Krashan
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    Well, now I'm waiting for AXE specifications. Freescale has not released MPC5121e User Manual yet, there are no other documents describing AXE in details.
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    jcmarcos
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    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:

    Well, now I'm waiting for AXE specifications. Freescale has not released MPC5121e User Manual yet, there are no other documents describing AXE in details.


    Let's hope freescale does it right with this chip. I can't wait for bplan porting SmartFirmware to this freescale MPC5121e development board, featured in a past BBRV blog post... hey, freescale states that it's "scheduled for availability in Q4 '07", so this is not a freescale board?.
    It would be very cool if they sent you one as soon as possible, like they said.
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    jcmarcos
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    Looking at freescale's MPC5121e evaluation board document I mentioned earlier, I noticed a reference to a certain "STx" company. It turns out to be Silicon Turnkey Express, a "contract design and original design manufacturer affiliate of RPC Electronics. RPC Electronics is an electronic manufacturing services provider to OEM customers". In short: They make hardware.
    STx has an specific freescale-based product page. There you can see interesting mainboards, like the GP3SSA, described like this:

    Quote:

    Low cost PowerQUICC 3 "motherboard" in Mini-ITX form factor: it can use off the shelf cases and power supplies. IO includes, 1394, IDE, PCI, dual mini-PCI, PMC, copper Gigabit ethernet. This can form the base of your product- just add a PCI card for any missing functionality and shut the lid! Call us about silk screening your logo too.


    It's not an Efika2, sure it isn't that freescale MPC5121e development board (perhaps their forecoming GP2PRO is?), but sure it's similar. It makes sense that freescale does not produce motherboards, only chips.
    The document cites related products, with a price tag of 500 $, if you order more that 1000 units.
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    downix
    Posts: 105 from 2003/2/10
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    You know all of this just makes me long to finishmy own design... I should get off of my butt.
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    jcmarcos
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    downix wrote:
    You know all of this just makes me long to finish my own design...


    Own design? Details please!
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