Sputnik 2nd beta released
  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 236 from 2003/7/28
    From: Canada
    Hi Marik, thanks for the 2nd beta! Nice work. A couple of things I have noticed:

    -page re-drawing while the page is loading is horrible, try http://www.engadget.com

    -after typing in a url it can take upto 10 seconds before anything happens. Often I think the browser has crashed or froze. Some indicator that something is happening would help.

    -I had "application is mediating" once, I don't know why but it crashed

    -sometimes it would not load the URL after I typed in the address, for example http://www.cbc.ca

    -the fonts were off a bit, (font sizes) for example again on http://www.engadget.com. Trying to change the font sizes didn't really help.

    Keep up the good work!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Sputnik is asking to me the version 2 on iconv.library.
    Why version 2?
    Sputnik is delivered with V1.2.

    Where can I get the las version of this library please?

    Sorry, ;-)
    It's working now :-)

    This is my first post with sputnik.

    [ Edited by serge on 2007/3/10 23:53 ]
  • »10.03.07 - 22:48
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    Quote:


    Sir_Lucas wrote:
    @Framiga

    Hi,
    Could u tell me what exactly did u write in u-s?
    I'd be very pleased as well as all powerup users.

    Thx


    run Sashimi from Shell.

    @Marcik

    do you need bug/hits reports?
  • »11.03.07 - 00:02
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  • DDJ
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    Butterfly
    DDJ
    Posts: 99 from 2003/2/24
    From: Brasil
    Hi Marcik and all, first time now with sputnick ;-),
    but some doubts I have :-?, this beta 2 is still slow
    then my old Voyager is this normal righ?, pages are
    loaded very slow, even here in morphzone the refresh
    page when scrooling is very blink, thanks man, this
    is gold for us, you will be a legend in morphworld
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Amigaz
    Posts: 121 from 2005/6/11
    Quote:


    Framiga wrote:
    Quote:


    Sir_Lucas wrote:
    @Framiga

    Hi,
    Could u tell me what exactly did u write in u-s?
    I'd be very pleased as well as all powerup users.

    Thx


    run Sashimi from Shell.

    @Marcik

    do you need bug/hits reports?



    Hey, Framiga

    Do you run Sashimi with the QUIET command or with the console open?
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  • »11.03.07 - 08:40
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    JohnFante
    Posts: 156 from 2006/9/4
    From: Copenhagen
    Works great but install fonts dos'nt work for me (and I have xadmaster installed). It downloads and thats it.

    Result. I can see the pages but there is no text. :-(

    Anybody has a link to the required fonts?

    Thanks in advance!
  • »11.03.07 - 11:19
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Amigaz
    Posts: 121 from 2005/6/11
    Quote:


    JohnFante wrote:
    Works great but install fonts dos'nt work for me (and I have xadmaster installed). It downloads and thats it.

    Result. I can see the pages but there is no text. :-(

    Anybody has a link to the required fonts?

    Thanks in advance!


    Sure you have everything installed?

    I had the same prob as you when I had left out some stuff from the xadmaster archive

    I used everything from the xadmaster060 archive from Aminet
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  • »11.03.07 - 11:27
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Krashan
    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
    From: Białystok...
    @DDJ:

    Note that Sputnik beta 2 has not [yet] image cache on disk. Then it
    loads all images from the website everytime, which slows most sites
    down significantly (especially MorphZone, typical forum page loads 100
    or more images).
  • »11.03.07 - 11:43
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    JohnFante
    Posts: 156 from 2006/9/4
    From: Copenhagen
    @ Amigaz

    Reinstalling xadmaster did'nt do the trick.

    Install fonts just stops after downloading. Strange.
  • »11.03.07 - 12:10
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    merko
    Posts: 328 from 2003/5/19
    Krashan: Yeah, but there are also other problems, often making
    scrolling in the same page (such as this one) rather slow. And while
    typing this the page keeps refreshing about 100 times for no apparent
    reason. Still, it looks great and I'm sure these problems will be
    solved!

    Anyway, is there a way to enable antialiased fonts somehow? Perhaps
    with some tte2 setting? And does anyone know if it's possible to
    install fonts with even more alphabets supported? This is way cool to
    have in morphos.
  • »11.03.07 - 13:11
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    If you look at the install script, you'll notice "xadunfile" is called to uncompress fonts. So make sure that you didn't only install xadmaster libs, but also its c commands such as xadunfile.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    JohnFante
    Posts: 156 from 2006/9/4
    From: Copenhagen
    xadunfile is in C.

    To be completely sure that the files are correctly installed I copied them manually to libs and c.

    I haven't (YET) registered xadmaster but that can't be the problem - can it?
  • »11.03.07 - 15:34
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  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    Arkanoid
    Posts: 41 from 2006/12/31
    Well this version at least works. I couldn't get the first beta to install (didn't try very hard). It's very slow when actually downloading pages, but I didn't notice it being slow when scrolling the window.

    Anyway, progress!! Nice one Marciek :)
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Hi Marcik .

    I have a problem with new Sputnik. When I try to launch it i get the
    error " need version 0 of usergroup.library" I got the same error when
    I double clicked the "install fonts" icon. Any help is apppreciated.

    Thanks

    magnetic
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  • »11.03.07 - 20:21
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Wishmaster
    Posts: 342 from 2003/6/29
    I think installing usergroup library could help.
    Pegasos PPC
  • »11.03.07 - 22:18
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 98 from 2004/6/4
    From: Ivanovo, Russia
    It worked well except it hangesd just after closing. And now the main but. Where is the CP1251 setting????
    WBR, Vladimir Berezenko
  • »12.03.07 - 05:51
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  • Caterpillar
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    wali7
    Posts: 24 from 2007/3/10
    From: Poland
    Hi HammerD (and everyone who have problems with Sputnik speed),
    install apooler http://www.tbs-software.com/morgoth/files/apooler-1.0a.lha . This program rapidly speed up Sputnik in my case (not only Sputnik, some other programs also gain more speed :) ).
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jcmarcos
    Posts: 1178 from 2003/3/13
    From: Pinto, Madrid ...
    What's this story about fonts? I've downloaded this second beta, and I'm eager to try it out, but I've seen that font setup script, and I know it won't work at home, because I don't have internet over there.
    Is it true that Sputnik requires some specific fonts, and renders no text if they are not present? Why is that?
    Can I donwload these fonts from elsewhere, instead of using the script at home?
  • »12.03.07 - 09:26
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Amigaz
    Posts: 121 from 2005/6/11
    Quote:


    wali7 wrote:
    Hi HammerD (and everyone who have problems with Sputnik speed),
    install apooler http://www.tbs-software.com/morgoth/files/apooler-1.0a.lha . This program rapidly speed up Sputnik in my case (not only Sputnik, some other programs also gain more speed :) ).


    So what does apooler do?

    Ok, tested...no speed increase

    [ Edited by Amigaz on 2007/3/12 12:24 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
    From: Hungary
    Is there any way to turn off onMouseOver borders and backgrounds on links?
    [ GK / LKA Team ]
  • »12.03.07 - 10:50
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  • Caterpillar
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    wali7
    Posts: 24 from 2007/3/10
    From: Poland
    Apooler fixes memory management system in MOS1.4.x, so programs which
    generate big number of memory allocations and releasing during its
    operating (like Sputnik) gain big speed up. MOS1.5 doesn't need this
    program because it has completly new and more efficient memory
    management in comparison to that in MOS1.4.x, so marcik and other MOS
    developers had no problems with Sputnik speed. During testing
    prerelase of the newest Sputnik version, me and other Sputnik testers
    with MOS1.4.x have found big slow down Sputnik and all MOS
    during browsing... apooler fixed it.
    On the other hand, morgoth (autor of the apooler) is the member of
    Morphos Team so I think using apooler is safe for Morphos (and user
    ;) )
  • »12.03.07 - 14:45
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  • Moderator
    Golem
    Posts: 766 from 2003/2/28
    From: Denmark
    Quote:

    Can I donwload these fonts from elsewhere, instead of using the script at home?

    Yes, just read the script, it's quite simple really. Now as for using Sputnik with no internet access, well... :-)
  • »12.03.07 - 14:49
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    koan
    Posts: 303 from 2005/11/21
    From: UK
    @marcik

    Good work. I can see a lot has gone into the second beta.
    Thanks!

    Why no option to set identification string to "Sputnik (MorphOS)" ? :)

    I would like to use TTF or bitmap fonts but I cannot select them or change coding to TIS-620....
    Maybe next beta ?

    thanks again
  • »12.03.07 - 15:05
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Posts: 109 from 2006/9/10
    Amigaz wrote:
    Quote:

    So what does apooler do?

    Ok, tested...no speed increase



    No speed increase here either. Most pages are rendered really nice with Sputnik, but they usually take ages to load (with lots of flickering while rendering them).
    Also vertical scrolling is still very slow and jumpy.

    Some nice improvements, but definately not "enjoyable" enough for daily browsing yet.


    [ Edited by quadpol on 2007/3/12 16:11 ]
  • »12.03.07 - 15:10
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  • Caterpillar
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    wali7
    Posts: 24 from 2007/3/10
    From: Poland
    in my case Sputnik dramatically speed up after installing apooler -
    just vertical scrolling... network speed is the same, and this won't
    be improwed until marcik implement cache

    have you installed apooler in user-startup? is apooler listed after
    STATUS command?
  • »12.03.07 - 15:25
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