Wickedly Evil Bounty #2 (poll)
Poll: Should we support a bounty to FINALLY get Installer support for MorphOS?
Ended on 10.01.2006 - 22:22:30
» Yes, and why wasn't this poll already started?
55 %
55.56 % (15)
» No, let the MorphOS-Team handle it on their own time.
25 %
25.93 % (7)
» Maybe, only if it's actually released sometime this century.
18 %
18.52 % (5)
Total Voters: 27

  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    This poll follows the other one, and again it isn't a "hurry up" for 1.5. Since we at MorphZone are unsure of the status of any third party projects regarding this, we will have requirement, and stiff ones, for this one.

    This project must be either (bsd style) open source, or have the source donated to the MorphOS Team. In whichever case, the MorphOS Team must be able to take the source and make it their own.

    It must be 100% compatable to Installer 43.3, and we (morphzone) really don't care WHO we pay. We'll start this bounty off at $100 too. This new bounty is also possible from the same benefactor (BugeyeD <- thanks again!).



    [ Edited by Targhan on 2006/1/3 23:23 ]
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  • »03.01.06 - 22:22
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Gelb
    Posts: 148 from 2003/3/4
    From: #amigazeux
    > It must be 100% compatable

    While I read this in a thread that is about bounties .. :) How about fixing some of the more crass spelling mistakes at https://morph.zone/modules/bounty/bounty_view.php?mychoice=ezTCP ? :)

    necissary = necessary
    Networking protocall = Networking protocoll
    occation = occasion
    garountee = guarantee
    responsable = responsible
    Compatable = Compatible
  • »04.01.06 - 01:36
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Velcro_SP
    Posts: 929 from 2003/7/13
    From: Universe
    sounds great, how about an AmigaGuide bounty next?
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  • »04.01.06 - 01:47
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    A proper installer is a must. This is a good bounty.
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  • »04.01.06 - 05:11
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1914 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    Well sure, why the heck not? I know a lot of people would like it working correctly for MOS.
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  • »04.01.06 - 05:52
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Robin
    Posts: 741 from 2003/2/24
    I'm all for an installer ... but not a port.
    I'd prefer a "all-in-one" feeling !
    (MorphUP(update manager) downloads when it finds an installscript then InMorph(installer) installs and then AppMorph(launch-bar/tool) is setup for easy access of the app)

    For compatibility the Aminet-Installer is enough.
  • »04.01.06 - 07:36
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    winterhunter
    Posts: 204 from 2005/10/13
    From: PACA, France
    I must concur with Robin, the aminet installer seems to do a good job, so why spend money/time/effort to have a native one (JIT is wonderful, isn't)?

    So if we must go for a new installer, let's go a really modern one, not "just a port".
  • »04.01.06 - 10:28
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Good backwards compatibility is a must-have in any "installer" clone. And that has been the problem with all installer clones I tried on classic amiga.

    And how would it be better than the 68k version? Look better? New options?

    I think it might be better to have 68k installer for backwards compatibility and maybe create a new & better (&different) installer from scratch.

    On the other hand, I like programs that don't need installer at all, programs that you can just unarchive and run :-)
  • »04.01.06 - 11:32
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    Quote:


    be better to have 68k installer for backwards compatibility and maybe create a new & better (&different) installer from scratch.



    Ops! I was going to add this but forgot.. thanks for bringing it up..
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  • »04.01.06 - 12:28
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    Well, the make believe option #4 was, "no, never. Any proper application needs to be installed by a simple drag and drop of the directory." Which, for the most part, I agree with. However, too many old apps need an installer, and I consider it a basic functionality.

    @AmigaGuide Bounty: Great Idea. Should that be put up for a vote?

    @Gelb: Thanks for the spellcheck, will get right on that ;-)
    :idea:Targhan

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  • »04.01.06 - 16:29
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  • Butterfly
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    alfie
    Posts: 72 from 2005/3/25
    From: Italy
    Applications that can really be installed with a d&d are very few. Usually, if it works, it is because of the needed components are already present in the system. Just a simple catalog must be copied in locale:language/catalogs (don't say it can be in PROGDIR:, because of when I did it, many people said it sucks :)
  • »04.01.06 - 16:43
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    not a priority at all IMHO
  • »04.01.06 - 16:46
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    @gelb

    found and replaced spelling boo-boo's that you've pointed out. thanks. ;-)
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  • »04.01.06 - 16:50
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Wishmaster
    Posts: 342 from 2003/6/29
    Why suck?
    They can be left in PROGDIR:locale/catalogs, PROGDIR:catalogs or something similar like that.

    [ Edited by Wishmaster on 2006/1/5 14:05 ]
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  • »05.01.06 - 13:01
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    AyoS
    Posts: 410 from 2003/8/13
    From: West Palm Beac...
    In My opinion: Let someone develop a new installer, the 68k version is fine for backwards compatability... Since Morphos is looking forward... Maybe even Qbox?? ( Remember That.) Why not begin to develop software that adds functionallity without regard to the legacy "Installer." The current Aminet Installer does fine.
  • »05.01.06 - 15:37
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    merko
    Posts: 328 from 2003/5/19
    Sorry for being late, but this is an evil thread after all:
    > Networking protocall = Networking protocoll

    Or rather: Networking protocol!
  • »07.01.06 - 02:32
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 408 from 2004/7/15
    From: Russia, Moscow
    1. It is possible to build a new modern installer 100% compatible with Commodore's one. I've already thought about it.
    2. AROS has some codebase to start with.

    Well, agree on something. As i see, there is Firewire task, there is Installer task... I would really like to pick something up.
    I repeat the question: where is Targhan? Why isn't the page updated?
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  • »20.03.06 - 07:15
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