audio partition not validated
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Hi,

    I was digitising some of my vinyl and inadvertantly filled up my audio
    partition. Now I can't delete anything from it or use anything from
    it, as I keep getting 'disk not validated' errors.

    Anyone know how I can rectify this?
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  • »15.02.05 - 16:19
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Aaarrgghh..........

    I took the drive out of my peg and put it into my A1, in a futile attempt to validate the partition. I couldn't get it to show up, no matter what jumper settings I used, although I realised when I switched my A1 on that the dodgy partition has a namesake on the A1 but not all the partitions have the same names, so I was expecting the others to show up. Don't know whether this is the case?

    It didn't work anyway, so I thought I'd put the drive back in the peg and start saving my files. Now it won't boot at all.
    I get "error while trying to load or boot" and even attempting to boot from the original MOS CD (boot /pci/cd boot.img) doesn't work; "no filesystem recognised".

    To make matters worse, the only back up I have is on another partition on the same drive - stupid I now know.

    Can anything be done here?
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  • »15.02.05 - 21:15
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    I once had a bigger crash using SFS .. MorphOS refused to boot, from cd or from harddrive. Amithlon saved my life.. I managed to copy stuff to safety using it. If you don't have Amithlon, maybe WinUAE supports Amiga-harddrives...?

    Just a thought.
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  • »15.02.05 - 21:28
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @hooligan:

    I don't even have a PC right now.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    pegasosuser
    Posts: 138 from 2004/4/9
    From: The Netherlands
    I had the same problem and my solution are foulty in the IDE cable!

    I have now installed a shealded IDE cable HDD and CDRom and working fast and good!

    no more problems.

    and use the master disk on the end of the IDE cable and the slave in the midle from the cable that are good solutions.

    Greetings Cor van Londen.
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  • »16.02.05 - 09:49
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    I think I might have killed the drive.

    I have a 2nd drive in my peg. It's an old 10gig one which used to be my boot drive.
    When I got my new drive, I moved the old one to the middle of the cable and used the new one to boot from.

    I've now managed to get my peg to boot, from the MOS cd but only when I move the old drive to the end of the cable.
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  • »16.02.05 - 18:11
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    Raoul
    Posts: 23 from 2004/1/23
    Hallo Robert,

    did you have any linux-bootable-cd like pegxmac?

    the data of your faulty drive are readable from
    pegxmac, and you can readout the data with
    linux to any other sfs-partiton. only the last
    used file, maybe one of your latest audio-file
    couldnt copied, you find it with an "!" and a size
    zero (0) marked in red in mc.


    the problem with sfs is, because one partition of
    your drive has a fault maybe an Error=99? sfs
    works also not for the other partitions on the same drive :( also SYS:

    here's the solution, use linux (pegxmac) mount
    the faulty partition and a clean partition on this
    drive, use "mc" to copy your data from the faulty
    to the clean partition, is this done, than umount
    the faulty partiton and use mke2fs to the faulty
    partition, than reboot, now the faulty is nomore
    sfs or ffs-partition and your MOS will boot, and
    now kill the new-ext2 (=e2fs)-partiton and make
    a sfs-partition instead, copy the backup back and
    smile.

    here the root-prompt-commands with i.e. pegxmac:

    mkdir /mnt2
    mkdir /mnt3

    mount -t asfs /dev/hda6 /mnt2 (hda6 for the faulty one)
    -asfs prints an error message and mount this partition readonly!

    mount -t asfs /dev/hda3 /mnt3 ( in this example the work: partiton)

    mc (starts the "mouseless commander")

    copy the readable data from /mnt2 to /mnt3

    after that quit mc (use F10-Key)


    umount /mnt2 if umount report error "busy buffer", make a reboot, and than do the next step

    mke2fs /dev/hda6

    reboot.

    PS: clean partition means i.e. work: or so, some
    people would tell you that the usage of asfs in
    linux is risky if you write to sfs-partitions, maybe,
    so use i.e. work:trashscan/ to copy your backup in

    Best whishes

    Raoul.
  • »16.02.05 - 23:56
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Hi Raoul,

    Thanks for the reply.

    Quote:

    did you have any linux-bootable-cd like pegxmac?


    I do but I never managed to get it working.
    The faulty partition is 30gb, FFS. There is also a 5gb SFS partition on the drive, plus MOS partition.
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  • »17.02.05 - 14:05
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    Raoul
    Posts: 23 from 2004/1/23
    Hi Robert,

    that's hard, and 30 GB! that's extra hard, so please
    try it again, you need a big HD for this real big backup.

    good luck

    Raoul.

    PS: to mount FFS-Partitions under linux, the command is "mount -t affs...."
  • »17.02.05 - 19:43
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Quote:


    Raoul wrote:
    that's hard, and 30 GB! that's extra hard, so please
    try it again,



    I can't even get the CD to boot. I must be typing the wrong command or something.

    Quote:

    you need a big HD for this real big backup.



    I know - something I don't have right now.
    I'm away to Prague/Czech mountains for a week, in the morning, so I'm going to try to forget this whole episode until my holiday is finished.
    When I come back, pay day will be near. Then I'll buy a new drive and try again.

    Quote:

    good luck



    Thank you. :-)

    Quote:


    PS: to mount FFS-Partitions under linux, the command is "mount -t affs...."


    Thanks again. If I ever manage to get into linux..... :-/

    [ Edited by Robert on 2005/2/18 17:32 ]
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  • »18.02.05 - 09:23
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    Rassilon
    Posts: 2 from 2005/2/18
    It sounds like you are suffering from the 1 PITA bug that SFS has - The partition has become full, but you cannot delete anything because deleted files are moved to the recyled folder, thus still occupying disk space and still leaving you with no room.

    IIRC you either have to delete some files from the recylced dir, and then from your partition, or you use one of the SFS salvage tools to copy the files you want to another partition.

    Lewis
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Quote:


    Rassilon wrote:
    It sounds like you are suffering from the 1 PITA bug that SFS has - The partition has become full, but you cannot delete anything because deleted files are moved to the recyled folder, thus still occupying disk space and still leaving you with no room.



    It's an FFS partition.
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  • »28.02.05 - 12:11
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    Rassilon
    Posts: 2 from 2005/2/18
    @Robert

    hmmm... that'll be me reading hooligan's post then!

    whoops!

    Lewis

    [ Edited by Rassilon on 2005/3/1 0:39 ]
  • »28.02.05 - 16:38
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @Raoul:

    Quote:

    the data of your faulty drive are readable from
    pegxmac, and you can readout the data with
    linux to any other sfs-partiton.


    Still no joy with pegXmac. Is it possible to read the drive from within Debian?
    I can't boot into linux on my Peg but I can boot into Debian on my A1.
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  • »02.03.05 - 18:45
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    Raoul
    Posts: 23 from 2004/1/23
    Yes Debian will do also the job, but even if you have
    affs-filesystem-support in debian, try "modprobe
    affs" to find it out, or search in /lib/modules/.../fs.
    but only if "mount -t affs /dev/..." returns an error.
    If not, you can backup your ffs-partition with your
    amiga-one.

    Best whishes

    Raoul.
  • »12.03.05 - 11:31
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Sorry, just saw this:

    Quote:


    Raoul wrote:
    Yes Debian will do also the job, but even if you have
    affs-filesystem-support in debian, try "modprobe
    affs" to find it out, or search in /lib/modules/.../fs.
    but only if "mount -t affs /dev/..." returns an error.
    If not, you can backup your ffs-partition with your
    amiga-one.



    So, first thing to do is open a shell and type:
    'mount -t affs /dev/' ?

    Thanks again,
    Robert.
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    Ingo
    Posts: 103 from 2004/3/20
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    Quote:


    I've now managed to get my peg to boot, from the MOS cd but only when I move the old drive to the end of the cable.



    I guess you know that UDMA-Cables are color coded and you MUST connect
    master and slave in specific order!

    See also http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html Connector Assignments and Color Coding
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Quote:

    I guess you know that UDMA-Cables are color coded and you MUST connect
    master and slave in specific order!


    Yes. When I first got my peg, I had a 10gig HD. I later upgraded to a 40gig, but just moved the old drive to the middle of the cable and kept a MOS partition on it.

    Now, if I'm booting into linux, with the gubbed drive attached to another ide channel, can someone tell me how would I know what to type after 'mount -t affs'?
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  • »17.03.05 - 15:44
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