Radeon HD 5870 Mac Bios
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1068 from 2003/3/24
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    Does anybody knows if a Radeon 5870 MacPro Edition would work with the OF in the G5?
    PowerMac G5 Quad 2.5 running UWQHD Resolution
  • »19.08.23 - 08:34
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    The last cards that did have a G5 compatible OpenFirmware BIOS were the Radeon X19xx cards AFAICT. The Radeon 5870 MacPro Edition pretty safely only works for Intel-based MacPro machines.
    It is also a pretty safe bet that none of the Evergreen based cards work for MorphOS currently (in a PMac G5), at least I didn't manage to run any of those which I have available.
    It is a different story for MorphOS supported machines like X5000 which run the BIOS code upfront.
    I still need to identify what the actual issue with PMac G5 machines is.
    I only managed to run some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    cyfm schrieb:
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    I still need to identify what the actual issue with PMac G5 machines is.
    I only managed to run some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    I had a HD5450 running in my PCIe-PMac G5 and my current HD4550 works too. A HD6450 I tried some years ago did not work.
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  • »19.08.23 - 12:02
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    ernsteiswuerfel schrieb:
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    cyfm schrieb:
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    I still need to identify what the actual issue with PMac G5 machines is.
    I only managed to run some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    I had a HD5450 running in my PCIe-PMac G5 and my current HD4550 works too. A HD6450 I tried some years ago did not work.


    Well, does it work in MorphOS as I don't care much if any kind of Linux works really ... ? I at least have several cards that don't and I still need to find a pattern why they refuse to work ...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1068 from 2003/3/24
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    Afaik the 5870 should run with the new driver that BigFoot has released some days ago.
    I have a Radeon HD 4xxx running in my PMac G5 Quad it outputs UWQHD through HDMI but has no 3D support.
    Ok i will go then for the 5870 non Mac Edition. I have still my Radeon 9650 that supports the OF.
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  • »19.08.23 - 13:19
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    From: Funeralopolis
    Quote:

    cyfm schrieb:
    Quote:

    ernsteiswuerfel schrieb:
    Quote:

    cyfm schrieb:
    [...]
    I still need to identify what the actual issue with PMac G5 machines is.
    I only managed to run some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    I had a HD5450 running in my PCIe-PMac G5 and my current HD4550 works too. A HD6450 I tried some years ago did not work.


    Well, does it work in MorphOS as I don't care much if any kind of Linux works really ... ? I at least have several cards that don't ...


    Yes, these two work on MorphOS. Another HD6450 did not work in MorphOS.

    I sold the HD5450 but still have the HD4550 which I can put in for tests. Latest when bigfoots driver gets initial RV710 3D support. ;-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ThePlayer schrieb:
    Ok i will go then for the 5870 non Mac Edition. I have still my Radeon 9650 that supports the OF.

    You got a PCIe Radeon 9650 with Mac BIOS that works on a G5 11,2? I thought the only G5 OpenFirmware capable cards were the X1950 and the Nvidia ones??
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  • »19.08.23 - 13:58
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    ernsteiswuerfel schrieb:
    Quote:

    cyfm schrieb:
    Quote:

    ernsteiswuerfel schrieb:
    Quote:

    cyfm schrieb:
    [...]
    I still need to identify what the actual issue with PMac G5 machines is.
    I only managed to run some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    I had a HD5450 running in my PCIe-PMac G5 and my current HD4550 works too. A HD6450 I tried some years ago did not work.


    Well, does it work in MorphOS as I don't care much if any kind of Linux works really ... ? I at least have several cards that don't ...


    Yes, these two work on MorphOS. Another HD6450 did not work in MorphOS.

    I sold the HD5450 but still have the HD4550 which I can put in for tests. Latest when bigfoots driver gets initial RV710 3D support. ;-)


    Ok, good to know that it isn't some generic issue starting with R(v)7xx cards at least. It might be reasonable to collect some details for the apparently working and non-working cards.
    We should probably start to create a list of models/brands that supposedly work.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12025 from 2003/5/22
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    > It is also a pretty safe bet that none of the Evergreen based cards
    > work for MorphOS currently (in a PMac G5), at least I didn't manage
    > to run any of those which I have available. […] I only managed to run
    > some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    This reminds me that last year I posted a small list of cards that had been reported to work:
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12785&forum=53&start=7
  • »19.08.23 - 21:01
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    Andreas_Wolf schrieb:
    > It is also a pretty safe bet that none of the Evergreen based cards
    > work for MorphOS currently (in a PMac G5), at least I didn't manage
    > to run any of those which I have available. […] I only managed to run
    > some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    This reminds me that last year I posted a small list of cards that had been reported to work:
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12785&forum=53&start=7


    And it is still as useless as last year without any detailed info on memory size and/or vendor plus output connector options added for most cards to at least get an idea of what might be different.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 538 from 2015/6/18
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    So it's probably no disadvantage to have Linux running on the G5 and get the relevant data of cards working/not working on MorphOS via lspci -vv -s [busnumber] ;-) ^^
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12025 from 2003/5/22
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    >>> It is also a pretty safe bet that none of the Evergreen based cards
    >>> work for MorphOS currently (in a PMac G5), at least I didn't manage
    >>> to run any of those which I have available. […] I only managed to run
    >>> some HD2xxx/HD3xxx cards on my PMac PCIe G5 so far.

    >> This reminds me that last year I posted a small list of cards that
    >> had been reported to work:
    >> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12785&forum=53&start=7

    > it is still as useless as last year

    It's at least been useful enough to have known already last year that it's not true that "none of the Evergreen based cards work" ;-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1068 from 2003/3/24
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    ernsteiswuerfel schrieb:
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    ThePlayer schrieb:
    Ok i will go then for the 5870 non Mac Edition. I have still my Radeon 9650 that supports the OF.

    You got a PCIe Radeon 9650 with Mac BIOS that works on a G5 11,2? I thought the only G5 OpenFirmware capable cards were the X1950 and the Nvidia ones??


    Sorry my bad. I Mixed that Up with my PMac 2,7 Ghz and AGP.
    OK gonna get me a Radeon 5870 from XFX and will tell you how it works. But not before September going to vacation.
    If you are looking for a good and fast Card that is supported by the new driver then get you the 5870. It's the fastest afaik. The 6870 is slower then the 5870.
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  • »21.08.23 - 13:42
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