MUI directories
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 256 from 2012/4/28
    I have one doubt in the MorphOS system there are two MUI directories:
    1. System/Classes/MUI
    2. System/Libs/MUI
    Both have the same MUI libs but which is the main directory? And the other I can delete, because when I tryed to update handle the MUI libs for example the pegasos-sigi MUI libraries for his tools always I copyed to System/Libs/MUI but also other problem is with Grunch ask me update some MUI and when I click to it always show me the message impossible update the library when already I have update them, for example with TextEditor.
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    Sam460ex 1 GHz + OS 4.1 F.E.
    MacMini 1.5 GHz + MorphOS 3.11
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Templario
    Posts: 256 from 2012/4/28
    Quote:

    jPV escribió:
    1. is the correct place. In fact I have never seen MUI directory in Libs on any system ever (not even on real Amiga). Remove it from the Libs.

    From the MorphOS.readme:

    - Q: Where do I put my 3rd party MUI custom classes?
    A: In SYS:Classes/MUI


    Thank you for your help, ufss I have this Libs/MUI in my other Amiga systems, Os3.9 and 4.1, I have this because some time moment an installer copyed the lib of this way and I continue with the problem in every system, MorphOS and the other two, at least I haven't AROS, because I repeat it.
    Amiga 500 with ROMs 1.3-2.05 and M-Tec AT 500 with hard disk and 4MB Ram.
    WinUAE + original OS 3.5&3.9
    Sam440ep 800 MHZ + OS 4.1 F.E.
    Sam460ex 1 GHz + OS 4.1 F.E.
    MacMini 1.5 GHz + MorphOS 3.11
    PowerBook G4 1.65 + MorphOS 3.11
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I have never seen MUI directory in Libs on any system ever
    > (not even on real Amiga).

    Libs/MUI/ was where I had the MUI custom classes on OS3.x. And this was the standard location as far as I remember. MorphOS changed this (for the better).
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jPV
    Posts: 1441 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > I have never seen MUI directory in Libs on any system ever
    > (not even on real Amiga).

    Libs/MUI/ was where I had the MUI custom classes on OS3.x. And this was the standard location as far as I remember. MorphOS changed this (for the better).


    For me it was always MUI:Libs/MUI/, and the MUI: assign pointed to a separate directory elsewhere, and not to the SYS:. I think the installer created the MUI directory automatically. I usually had it in SYS: anyway, but then it was SYS:MUI/Libs/MUI/, and other MUI files definitely haven't been in the SYS: root on the systems I've seen...

    [ Edited by jPV 30.10.2018 - 07:05 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jPV
    Posts: 1441 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Quote:

    Templario wrote:
    Thank you for your help, ufss I have this Libs/MUI in my other Amiga systems, Os3.9 and 4.1, I have this because some time moment an installer copyed the lib of this way and I continue with the problem in every system, MorphOS and the other two, at least I haven't AROS, because I repeat it.


    On my OS4.1FE and OS3.x setups I have them in SYS:MUI/Libs/MUI/, not in SYS:Libs/MUI... but in MorphOS there isn't SYS:MUI/ directory at all where you could copy anything, because MUI is more integrated in the system...
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> Libs/MUI/ was where I had the MUI custom classes on OS3.x.

    > For me it was always MUI:Libs/MUI/, and the MUI: assign
    > pointed to a separate directory elsewhere, and not to the SYS:.

    I think I had MUI: point to SYS: because I saw no point in an additional MUI directory on SYS:.

    > other MUI files definitely haven't been in the SYS: root
    > on the systems I've seen

    Which files would this have been anyway? Even with my setup having MUI: point to SYS: directly I can't remember any MUI files residing in the SYS: root.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jPV
    Posts: 1441 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > other MUI files definitely haven't been in the SYS: root
    > on the systems I've seen

    Which files would this have been anyway? Even with my setup having MUI: point to SYS: directly I can't remember any MUI files residing in the SYS: root.

    All of these 53 directories and 395 files seen in the MUI archive: http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/mui38usr ? :) Where do you have those then?

    Hmm.. maybe some more ancient MUI had files cluttered somewhere else, but not the latest versions?


    These are from the MUI 3.8 installation script:

    "All MUI files belong to a single directory called 'MUI'. If there are any MUI files outside this directory (e.g. because they were left over from a previous installation), MUI might not work as expected. It is strongly recommended to delete those files, like suggested by the installation program."

    "Please select a place for the MUI package. A drawer called 'MUI' will be created here. The minimum space required is about 500 kB, a complete installation takes 2.5 MB."


    And user-startup after MUI 3.8 installation looks like this:
    Code:

    ;BEGIN MUI
    if exists "Sys:MUI"
    assign MUI: "Sys:MUI"
    if exists MUI:Libs
    assign add LIBS: MUI:Libs
    endif
    if exists MUI:Locale
    assign add LOCALE: MUI:Locale
    endif
    version >nil: exec.library 39
    if not warn
    if exists MUI:Docs
    if exists HELP:dummy ; do not remove
    endif ; this entry!
    assign add HELP: MUI:Docs
    endif
    endif
    endif
    ;END MUI
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10018 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > All of these 53 directories and 395 files seen in the MUI archive:
    > http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/mui38usr ? :)
    > Where do you have those then?

    I currently have no access to my old OS3 backup unfortunately. As soon as I have, I will investigate and tell here.
  • »31.10.18 - 12:56
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