Licence to distribute Workbench 3.1, Rom 3.1 and Rom 1.3
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    >> hasn't the New York case (Cloanto vs. Hyperion) been merged with the newer Washington
    >> case (Hyperion vs. Amiga, Amino, Cloanto, Itec) and relocated to Washington?

    > actually "transferred" as opposed to merged. These are seperate cases and amended
    > claims have been filed for each one.

    Yes, thanks for providing more accurate information.
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    esc
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    Can we fork the legal discussion into another thread please? I'm interested in what Papiosaur is trying to accomplish here :)

    Papiosaur, if you download amikit, for example, and try to run it, it'll prompt you for ways to find your already-licensed ROMs. I think this is the ideal solution. Just have Chrysalis be able to point to stuff we already have and use that. I would avoid trying to figure out licensing or do anything potentially sketchy. I'm sure everyone on this thread has probably already paid for ROMs :)
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    Jim
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    esc wrote:
    Can we fork the legal discussion into another thread please? I'm interested in what Papiosaur is trying to accomplish here :)

    Papiosaur, if you download amikit, for example, and try to run it, it'll prompt you for ways to find your already-licensed ROMs. I think this is the ideal solution. Just have Chrysalis be able to point to stuff we already have and use that. I would avoid trying to figure out licensing or do anything potentially sketchy. I'm sure everyone on this thread has probably already paid for ROMs :)


    Interesting solution, but by today's standards questionable.
    I have an Amiga with legal 3.1 roms in it, does that mean I have a license to use that software in any device I want to install it on, on multiple devices?

    If its a per user answer, your solution makes sense to me as it can't be prevented, there is no registration or licensing process for end users of these roms.

    Papi was asking about distribution of the roms with other software.

    Its not a practical idea with a free software distribution (or even commercial software), and even AmiKit developers realize that.

    So we let this thread go off course with a discussion of where you'd be able to legally source roms.

    Sorry for the distraction. Yes, the best course is not to distribute the roms and allow the end users to secure them themselves. It eliminates any legal issues and leaves the matter up to the end user's discretion.
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    KennyR
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    esc wrote:
    Can we fork the legal discussion into another thread please? I'm interested in what Papiosaur is trying to accomplish here :)


    The legal discussion would just follow it, just like it has a thousand other attempts in the past. Amiga stuff won't ever be around without the legal drama - it's just one and the same now. That's just how it is. Only way around it is to avoid Amiga IP like the plague.
  • »16.06.18 - 12:19
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    Intuition
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    Zylesea wrote:
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    TheMagicM wrote:
    How good is the AROS kickstart rom? Is it a full implementation of whatever the real kickstart rom provides?


    Good enough to play trackloading games or boot the 68K AROS Workbench but you can't use it to boot Amiga OS yet.


    And hence it is rather good enough for an add on package for MorphOS. I mean there is little need to run full AmigaOS on MorphOS. UAE on MorphOS is more about directly launched games. I would avoid original AmigaOS for a free distribution. With the AROS kickstart a lot can be launched and it spreads AROS a bit in the real world.


    Yep, bundling AROS kickstart with UAE for playing games is the best bet.
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  • »16.06.18 - 13:43
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  • Jim
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    Intuition wrote:
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    Zylesea wrote:
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    Intuition schrieb:
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    TheMagicM wrote:
    How good is the AROS kickstart rom? Is it a full implementation of whatever the real kickstart rom provides?


    Good enough to play trackloading games or boot the 68K AROS Workbench but you can't use it to boot Amiga OS yet.


    And hence it is rather good enough for an add on package for MorphOS. I mean there is little need to run full AmigaOS on MorphOS. UAE on MorphOS is more about directly launched games. I would avoid original AmigaOS for a free distribution. With the AROS kickstart a lot can be launched and it spreads AROS a bit in the real world.


    Yep, bundling AROS kickstart with UAE for playing games is the best bet.


    I'd use that if it could be better integrated.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »16.06.18 - 14:48
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