Bluetooth file transfer; is it possible ?
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    Desktop-Dynamite
    Posts: 12 from 2015/10/5
    From: Malta
    Hello again,

    I have the A1134 iBook G4, which according to the specs here: https://everymac.com/systems/apple/ibook/specs/ibook_g4_1.42_14.html it should have a built-in bluetooth.

    Now is it possible to do file transfers and use bluetooth on MorphOS ?

    I cannot see any bluetooth related setting, nor icons.

    If yes, is there a guide which allows me to make use of bluetooth ?


    TIA
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    Cego
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    there is no bluetooth support in MorphOS and there will never be.
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    Quote:

    Cego wrote:
    there is no bluetooth support in MorphOS and there will never be.

    But in some occasions bluetooth devices can work, for example bluetooth mouse and keyboard do work with Mac mini (on MorphOS too) if they have been paired under OSX originally. I don't know if it's the case with any other models... maybe?
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  • Leo
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    Quote:


    there is no bluetooth support in MorphOS and there will never be.


    Never ? Why ?
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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    Cego
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    costs something like 10000 $ a year or so
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    amyren
    Posts: 202 from 2010/5/15
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    Is that bluetooth licence fee required for free software as well?

    If yes, with all those free linux distros out there, who pays for those fees?

    If no, would it be possible to release the bluetooth drivers as a third party freeware addon?

    [ Edited by amyren 21.12.2017 - 11:37 ]
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 1677 from 2003/3/5
    From: Poland
    Quote:

    amyren wrote:
    If yes, with all those free linux distros out there, who pays for those fees?



    The companies that sell/sold BT equipped Linux hardware did pay for the license afair.
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    eliot
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    Quote:

    amyren wrote:
    If yes, with all those free linux distros out there, who pays for those fees?



    The companies that sell/sold BT equipped Linux hardware did pay for the license afair.


    So it should be no problem for Mos to support bt.
    The hardware manufacturer already payed the the licence fees and Mos just supports the
    build in hardware.
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  • »21.12.17 - 13:36
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    jacadcaps
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    Well, does the Powerbook's BT work on Linux?
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    amyren
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    Linux was only mentioned as a comment to the argument that BT never could happen on MorphOS due to the expensive yearly cost.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_stack

    http://www.bluez.org/about/

    https://www.bluetooth.com/membership-working-groups/membership-benefits
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    I thought you needed a licence to create and sell a bluetooth device: I cannot find anything about writing your own bluetooth stack.
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
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    amyren
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    Quote:

    jacadcaps wrote:
    Well, does the Powerbook's BT work on Linux?

    Yes, it does!
    I just installed Lubuntu 14.04 onto my PowerBook A1138 model. At first it didnt seem to work, but after performing the update to 16.04 LTS it does work. I can now search and discover and pair BT devices from Lubuntu.

    And then I discovered that my logitech revolution mx BT mouse indeed does work under MorphOS. (thanks to jPV for that information).
    Pairing it when running Lubuntu first, but then it did not work in MorphOS. Then switched to OSX and paired the mouse again, and after that it did work under MorphOS directly.
    After pairing it in OSX, the BT mouse also works in the graphical boot menu. This means that the BT is enabled and paired even before the OS is loaded, and that probably explains why the mouse will work in MorphOS as well.
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    amyren wrote:
    After pairing it in OSX, the BT mouse also works in the graphical boot menu. This means that the BT is enabled and paired even before the OS is loaded, and that probably explains why the mouse will work in MorphOS as well.


    That's interesting, I never heard of that before. It means the BIOS has some support for bluetooth directly, presumably because Apple were big on pushing wireless and were looking to avoid much of the issues with it not being available on early boot.

    It's probably doing it by wrapping the bluetooth input device to something else, i.e. making it look like a USB or PS2 device. MorphOS wouldn't even know it was dealing with BT.
  • »02.06.18 - 18:17
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    Kronos
    Posts: 1793 from 2003/2/24
    That hidden BT in the AppleOF is news as least as old as the 1st release of MorphOS for the MacMini......

    Mapped as USB, but the mouse only supports 3 buttons, so no scroll wheel.

    When used with a magic mouse only 2 buttons, no gestures.
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