NoviaOS on AmigaOne X5000. What is it?
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    WTF - Obviously, I am on autopilot here.
    You all can discuss this silliness, I'm bowing out.

    [ Edited by Jim 20.10.2017 - 15:44 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > 2GB of gpu ram and 1GB of system ram?

    The screenshot shows 3 GiB of graphics RAM and 2 GiB of system RAM.



    New gpus use system ram too for graphic operation 2 GB of gpu ram (ddr3or gddr5) 1 gb of ram is the shared = 3gb
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    > New gpus use system ram too for graphic operation 2 GB of
    > gpu ram (ddr3or gddr5) 1 gb of ram is the shared = 3gb

    Under AmigaOS 4?
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    Andreas_Wolf schrieb:
    > New gpus use system ram too for graphic operation 2 GB of
    > gpu ram (ddr3or gddr5) 1 gb of ram is the shared = 3gb

    Under AmigaOS 4?


    Under NoviaOS ;-)
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    Well, this nonsense was just explained by Trevor @ AmiWest 2017.
    It is OS4, and they've updated the graphics drivers to allow the system to use graphics ram.
    So, yes, its OS4.
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    > they've updated the graphics drivers to allow the system to use graphics ram.

    ...more than 256 MiB of that, which has been the limit so far.
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > they've updated the graphics drivers to allow the system to use graphics ram.

    ...more than 256 MiB of that, which has been the limit so far.


    Yes, which explain the point you were questioning.
    And Trevor thought no one caught that, of course you've proved him wrong there, and you drew our attention to that anomaly...what yesterday?
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    > Trevor thought no one caught that, of course you've proved him wrong there,
    > and you drew our attention to that anomaly...what yesterday?

    tlosmx mentioned it first in this thread :-)
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Trevor thought no one caught that, of course you've proved him wrong there,
    > and you drew our attention to that anomaly...what yesterday?

    tlosmx mentioned it first in this thread :-)


    Yeah, well according to Trevor maybe one person in the OS4 community caught on.
    Here, it was sliced apart for the salient information. ;-)
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    Jim wrote:

    So, yes, its OS4.


    ...called NoviaOS IV.

    Question still remain: why?
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    I just file it under „mistimed Aprils fool“ then.....
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    Kronos wrote:
    I just file it under „mistimed Aprils fool“ then.....


    Or yet another thing silly from the English.

    'Novia'or girlfriend, instead of 'Amiga'which is more like girl-friend, IV instead of 4.
    Kind of obvious when you take it apart.
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    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.


    British humor is rather opaque to the rest of us, its just Trevor being 'funny'.
    And there is a fine line between 'funny' and 'retarded'. ;-)
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.


    Can't speak for Trevor, but I imagine that he and/or the person actually doing the work to produce the screen grab or altered photo, changed the names to confuse people and get them talking about it. If they had not changed the name from Workbench to Desktop, as well as the other few changes, it would have been too obvious that it was NOT a Linux distro, and in fact was AmigaOS4.1FE with a new graphic driver.
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.


    Can't speak for Trevor, but I imagine that he and/or the person actually doing the work to produce the screen grab or altered photo, changed the names to confuse people and get them talking about it. If they had not changed the name from Workbench to Desktop, as well as the other few changes, it would have been too obvious that it was NOT a Linux distro, and in fact was AmigaOS4.1FE with a new graphic driver.


    I don't know why some of them aren't getting that David.
    You seem to grasp the fact that Trevor was just having a little fun with us (and hinting at the new features in the video drivers).
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    amigadave wrote:
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.


    Can't speak for Trevor,


    Yet you obviously do... ;-)

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    If they had not changed the name from Workbench to Desktop, as well as the other few changes,


    They didn’t change “a few”. However, I like the fact that that their new name for MUI is “GUI”. A welcome change, since we no longer have to add the “Franken” prefix in order to separate their incompatible MUI version from the real one...

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    it would have been too obvious that it was NOT a Linux distro, and in fact was AmigaOS4.1FE


    And that would have been so stupid...
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    Jim wrote:
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.


    British humor is rather opaque to the rest of us, its just Trevor being 'funny'.
    And there is a fine line between 'funny' and 'retarded'. ;-)


    So for the record:

    1. Did Trevor explicitly tell you this? Or
    2. Do you just assume this yourself?

    I only ask (before moving on with my life, even I have a threshold for how much OS4 stupidity I can be bothered with) because it would have been much easier to discard this as a retarded joke, if the key Amiga related trademarks replaced in that picture *HAD NOT* been in full legal limbo/dispute.
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
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    Jim wrote:
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    Jim, please. The ”mystery” wasn’t really wich OS AeonKit showed in the picture, and not what ”Novia” or ”IV” means.

    The question is *WHY* AeonKit posted a picture of the OS where Workbench Screen is renamed Desktop screen, AmigaOS is renamed NoviaOS, 4 is renamed IV, Kickstart is renamed Kick, Workbench is renamed Work, MUI is renamed GUI, Warp3D is renamed Warp, MiniGL is renamed MiniG, SysMon is renamed monsys.

    You used the word ”retarded” earlier in this thread. Could be. Could be a weird joke that nobody understands. Or it was a rational reason behind it. Which would be interesting.


    British humor is rather opaque to the rest of us, its just Trevor being 'funny'.
    And there is a fine line between 'funny' and 'retarded'. ;-)


    So for the record:

    1. Did Trevor explicitly tell you this? Or
    2. Do you just assume this yourself?

    I only ask (before moving on with my life, even I have a threshold for how much OS4 stupidity I can be bothered with) because it would have been much easier to discard this as a retarded joke, if the key Amiga related trademarks replaced in that picture *HAD NOT* been in full legal limbo/dispute.



    i call all just smoke in the eyes...
    at the end nothing interesing done and nothing interesting will be done in future if only this new radeon drivers for make new gpu work on os4 but for do what? there is no software available to use the power of this new gpus ... i have to suggest to made a 6000 euros gpu working on os4 just for move windows
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    1. Did Trevor explicitly tell you this? Or
    2. Do you just assume this yourself?

    I only ask (before moving on with my life, even I have a threshold for how much OS4 stupidity I can be bothered with) because it would have been much easier to discard this as a retarded joke, if the key Amiga related trademarks replaced in that picture *HAD NOT* been in full legal limbo/dispute.



    Yes, stupidity defines the situation, and you seem to be taking it far too seriously.
    And Trevor addressed his posting of 'NoviaOS IV' at Amiwest 2017 yesterday.

    So no, I was neither addressed directly OR assumed anything, the info came directly from the horse's...mouth(?).
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    that is alice ;-)
    isnt that shot. that shot is a real P5020 on os4 with some photoshoping here and there
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    tlosmx wrote:
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    Templario wrote:
    Amiga 3.9 under linux emulation perhaps?


    that is alice ;-)
    isnt that shot. that shot is a real P5020 on os4 with some photoshoping here and there


    Or just some creative editing of a few names. Not that difficult.
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