X1000 and A1222
  • Jim
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    Well, I don't see this happening (G5 support) in the next release alongsidr X5000 support (IF we even get that).
    And 3.11 is likely to be a 'bug fix' release.
    Also, they have not stated that support for the 11,2 was even under consideration.
    I bought mine to run Linux, to have something to compare the X5000 to, because it's about the best PPC system released for single user applications, and on the off chance the support might happen.
    But if it doesn't, I still have a competent PPC Linux system.
    I don't know personally how valid the complaints about the X5000 are, but the expansion bus of the 970MP has a LOT of PCI-E lanes.

    [ Edited by Jim 26.09.2017 - 16:02 ]
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  • »26.09.17 - 21:01
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > the 970 isn't really a SOC.

    Yes, it's no SoC at all, not even a very basic one like the PA6T with its integrated memory controller (and Ethernet).

    > Hyper Transport...like AMD uses.

    Yes, and HyperTransport is already used by the CPC925/U3/U3H to connect to the PCI(-X) bridge in the currently supported AGP-based G5 PowerMacs.

    > The only reason I have heard for the delays related to 3.10 revolve around
    > the code that had to be replaced.

    So I guess there's no "IFF" to the X5000 support in MorphOS 3.10 :-)
  • »27.09.17 - 23:17
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  • Jim
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    Cool, and I used to know who invented Hyper Transport, but my memory isn't as strong as yours (which is why I mentioned AMD, but to the best of my knowledge, they are only a licensee).

    These new APUs will make a great addition to AMD's lineup. Ryzen only just competes with Intel's line up, but AMD's graphics are much better than Intels built in gpus.

    Did I misspell 'IF', wouldn't surprise me. ;-)
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  • »27.09.17 - 23:47
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I used to know who invented Hyper Transport [...] (which is why I mentioned AMD,
    > but to the best of my knowledge, they are only a licensee).

    I'm not sure who invented it, but it was introduced in 2001 by the HyperTransport Consortium "founded in 2001 by Advanced Micro Devices, Alliance Semiconductor, Apple Computer, Broadcom Corporation, Cisco Systems, NVIDIA, PMC-Sierra, Sun Microsystems, and Transmeta".
  • »28.09.17 - 00:26
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  • Jim
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > I used to know who invented Hyper Transport [...] (which is why I mentioned AMD,
    > but to the best of my knowledge, they are only a licensee).

    I'm not sure who invented it, but it was introduced in 2001 by the HyperTransport Consortium "founded in 2001 by Advanced Micro Devices, Alliance Semiconductor, Apple Computer, Broadcom Corporation, Cisco Systems, NVIDIA, PMC-Sierra, Sun Microsystems, and Transmeta".


    Then most likely Sun.
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  • »28.09.17 - 00:44
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  • Butterfly
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    number6 wrote:
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > in October 1000 new AmigaOne A1222 boards will be released to the community.

    Hasn't this already been postponed to early 2018? They must be 3 years old by then.

    > Charge those users a $100 license fee

    I wouldn't find it fair to charge them more than Sam460 user (49 EUR).


    In July, 2017 interview Trevor said that he was "hopeful" that there would be an announcement
    by the end of 2017. If I can find anything more recent from the source, I'll post it.

    Source

    #6




    I promised to post anything new mentioned on this topic. Although not earth shattering, here it is.

    Trevor's most recent blog seems to basically repeat what he has said in the past:

    Quote:

    Although there is still some work needed to done on audio and Ethernet drivers before the AmigaOne A1222 can be commercially released, the FPU optimization appears to be progressing well.


    Nevertheless, apparently they are taking it to AmiWest and intend to do a demo.

    Quote:

    the plan is to show AmigaOS 4.1 running on the AmigaOne A1222 in a live public demonstration for the first time.


    Source for both quotes

    #6
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  • Cocoon
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    terminills
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    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > I used to know who invented Hyper Transport [...] (which is why I mentioned AMD,
    > but to the best of my knowledge, they are only a licensee).

    I'm not sure who invented it, but it was introduced in 2001 by the HyperTransport Consortium "founded in 2001 by Advanced Micro Devices, Alliance Semiconductor, Apple Computer, Broadcom Corporation, Cisco Systems, NVIDIA, PMC-Sierra, Sun Microsystems, and Transmeta".


    Then most likely Sun.



    It was originally developed by AMD/DEC.

    https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/51158-api-networks-winds-down-engineering-shifts-to-amd



    [ Edited by terminills 16.10.2017 - 12:23 ]
  • »16.10.17 - 11:24
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  • Jim
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    Thanks, I knew AMD was a significant player in this, I just didn't realize that they were that big a part of it.
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  • »16.10.17 - 15:45
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