I'm really enjoying the value (money wise) of MorphOS
  • Caterpillar
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    I've only recently started using MorphOS. I'm really enjoying how low the price of entry and the performance and excellent compatibility with classic Amiga software. It just struck me about how MUCH I'm getting for so LITTLE cash.

    Over the last few weeks I've picked up a bunch of A1138 and A1139 PowerBooks on eBay for $100 or less. Add on the MorphOS license and I'm still under $200 for an Amiga like OS on hardware that basically spanks the X1000 for performance. I'm looking at what I've spent for X1000s and now an X5000 and looking at what I've paid for MorphOS systems and all I can do is shake my head. After what I've spent on the X1000s and X5000 my wife wants to shake more than just my head :)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    koszer
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    Quote:

    Pgovotsos wrote:
    I'm really enjoying how low the price of entry and the performance and excellent compatibility with classic Amiga software.


    Yet, so few enter...
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2301 from 2006/3/21
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    Quote:

    koszer wrote:
    Quote:

    Pgovotsos wrote:
    I'm really enjoying how low the price of entry and the performance and excellent compatibility with classic Amiga software.


    Yet, so few enter...




    There are a few reasons for this strange behavior:

    1. MorphOS is not the "Official" successor and does not bear the name "Amiga" as part of its OS name. This should not be important, but for some users, it still appears to make some difference.

    2. The MorphOS Dev. Team does not promote themselves, or the OS often. A few of the members show up at a few European computer shows or demonstrations, but it seems that even that only happens about 2 to 3 times a year, possibly less. No matter how opposed to their choices and methods most MorphOS users might be, you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have not made an impact on the AmigaOS4.x community, with their efforts to promote software development, and the creation of new hardware to run AmigaOS4.x on. There is much more talk all over the Internet about AmigaOS4.x and A-Eon, than is heard about MorphOS.

    3. So far, attempts to increase 3rd party software development for MorphOS have yeilded very little in the way of new, or newly ported software.

    4. MorphOS users (for the most part) tend to be less enthusiastic, and instead just use their systems for computing needs, while AmigaOS4.x users seemingly like to discuss their systems at greater length, and more often, which creates more traffic on AmigaOS4.x forums, which creates more interest, from anyone casually interested in learning more about anything related to the Amiga of old.

    I am sure there are more reasons that some might add to my list, but those above seem to me to be the most prominent reasons why many users are more interested in AmigaOS4.x, than MorphOS.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 8858 from 2003/5/22
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    > you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have not made an impact on
    > the AmigaOS4.x community

    ;-)
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 3798 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have not made an impact on
    > the AmigaOS4.x community

    ;-)


    Glad YOU understood that, the double negative in that sentence makes my head hurt.

    It should read "You can't deny that Aeon/AmigaKit have made an impact on the amigaOS4.1x community"

    Yes,stipends and bounties apparently work.
    Who'd have guessed that getting paid for your time would be an incentive? ;-)

    We need more individual like Fraggle (or we need to act in concert, to promote/fund projects).
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2301 from 2006/3/21
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have not made an impact on
    > the AmigaOS4.x community

    ;-)


    Oops, missed that double negative of mine. That should have read "you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have made an impact....."
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 3798 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    amigadave wrote:
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have not made an impact on
    > the AmigaOS4.x community

    ;-)


    Oops, missed that double negative of mine. That should have read "you can't deny that A-Eon/AmigaKit have made an impact....."


    Sorry David, that comment of mine was a bit inconsiderate.
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  • Caterpillar
    Caterpillar
    Posts: 39 from 2016/3/9
    Quote:

    koszer wrote:
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    Pgovotsos wrote:
    I'm really enjoying how low the price of entry and the performance and excellent compatibility with classic Amiga software.


    Yet, so few enter...




    I keep wondering why that is. MorphOS is excellent. Is it a holdover of the Blue vs Red wars or just because there are so few of us left? In general the community here seems to be welcoming and less acrimonious.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    oh I mistakenly thought the double-negative was intentional and I was about to reason it out, until the correction

    [ Edited by dethknave 21.03.2017 - 13:21 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 528 from 2006/5/28
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    yes MorphOS is excellent in its own standard, but it still lacks the most important thing: community.

    There is absolutely nothing happening in the community, which on the other side wont be appealing to coders to port their stuff to MorphOS. As far as i like MorphOS, the lack of interaction, projects and spirit is really discouraging. I hardly use MorphOS on my PowerBook anymore. OWB is getting slower due to the increasing demands of the web.
    Since the last year i am really into classic Amiga again. I have heavily expanded my A1200 to the max and it is still fun, everytime i turn on my machine.

    I'd love to use my MorphOS machine more often and productively, but it really lacks essential software like a Windows compatible Word and Spreadsheet processor. Some new software (music streaming client f.e.) or game every now and then wouldn't hurt neither. But there's almost nothing happening. Too bad, because i really love the system. My expactations are down to zero actually. If something happens, thats fine. i will use the system as long as i have a benefit and see it as useful. maybe the transition to ARM/x64 will give us more opportunities and higher chances of porting software. New hardware is essential too. I've already had 2 broken PowerBooks and 1 broken PowerMac G5 in the timespan of 1,5 years and my recent PowerBooks right fan is already making noises... those old apple computers arent reliable anymore after 12-14 years of age.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 8858 from 2003/5/22
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    > a Windows compatible Word and Spreadsheet processor

    I'd be content with a MorphOS program that can read/write file formats from MS Office and/or LibreOffice, even if it's not Windows-compatible.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 125 from 2015/6/18
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    Cego schrieb:
    There is absolutely nothing happening in the community, which on the other side wont be appealing to coders to port their stuff to MorphOS. As far as i like MorphOS, the lack of interaction, projects and spirit is really discouraging. I'd love to use my MorphOS machine more often and productively, but it really lacks essential software like a Windows compatible Word and Spreadsheet processor. Some new software (music streaming client f.e.) or game every now and then wouldn't hurt neither.

    Well, "absolutely nothing happening" is really an exaggeration. Just look at MorphOS Storage, there are about 100 uploads since January 2017. And here ony MorphZone you can read users giving feedack, so I can't complain about little interaction either. beworld's excellent game ports are a good counterexample.

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    Since the last year i am really into classic Amiga again. I have heavily expanded my A1200 to the max and it is still fun, everytime i turn on my machine.
    [...]
    New hardware is essential too. I've already had 2 broken PowerBooks and 1 broken PowerMac G5 in the timespan of 1,5 years and my recent PowerBooks right fan is already making noises... those old apple computers arent reliable anymore after 12-14 years of age.

    I don't quite understand people calling PPC-hardware dated, but using even more dated classic hardware then... You never needed to fix your classic hardware or never got some hardware modifications done (by another person)? Lucky you! And guess what, no modern browser at all. Netsurf 68K is making progress, but I doubt the browsing experience will be better due to CPU and RAM limitations of the classics (even with a Vampire).

    A .docx/.odt compatible Word Processor would really be appreciated, that's right. But I doubt this will run decent on the Classics, so only OS4/MorphOS/AROS then... Having said that, CinnamonWriter is pretty usable! It supports .docx but it's import/export capabilities are rather basic. Sadly CinnamonWriter progresses only slowly. Perhaps this guy would gladly accepty some help?

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 528 from 2006/5/28
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    @ernsteiswuerfel

    on the classic i dont have the expaction of it to live up to modern day tasks. it is what it is, a retro computing platform which is fun to be played around and modified.

    MorphOS on the other hand is a modern OS, where i expect a fundamental functionality and productivity. You can't really compare Classics to NG.

    Thanks for the link. I didnt know about MorphOS Storage. Seems pretty interesting. Will have a deeper look at it.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 134 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > a Windows compatible Word and Spreadsheet processor

    I'd be content with a MorphOS program that can read/write file formats from MS Office and/or LibreOffice, even if it's not Windows-compatible.


    Yeah. That would be fully sufficient.
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  • Butterfly
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    Posts: 86 from 2007/5/26
    As I se it, as long as MorphOS had the best webbrowser, it fealt like MorphOS was on a roll.
    But since then, MorphOS has started to go silently into the night.
    Really sad, I love MorphOS!
    Webbrowser = the most importent software despite of platform.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    asrael22
    Posts: 134 from 2014/6/11
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    metalmac wrote:
    As I se it, as long as MorphOS had the best webbrowser, it fealt like MorphOS was on a roll.
    But since then, MorphOS has started to go silently into the night.
    Really sad, I love MorphOS!
    Webbrowser = the most importent software despite of platform.


    I'm not certain.
    The most performance intensive thing I do with the browser is watching YouTube videos.
    That can still be done using OWB.

    Other than that, what is lacking is:
    - full IMAP support for emails.
    I'm hosting my own Postfix email server including IMAP. I can't really use email fully with all features on MorphOS.
    - MS Office/OpenOffice document format support.
    That doesn't necessarily need to be LibreOffice. Some spreadsheet or text processing application would do. But neither is available.
    And in fact I'm not sure whether that is more of a business feature.
    When does someone send me a word document in private. I couldn't remember that.
    Something like FinalWriter, TurboCalc, Ignition et. al. would fully do.

    In the end, it's just a different platform. I mean, when I want to play Elite Dangerous I just can't do that on MorphOS.
    It can't really compete with Windows, macOS or Linux.
    But there is still something that makes this platform interesting.


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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 8858 from 2003/5/22
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    > at MorphOS Storage, there are about 100 uploads since January 2017.

    To be fair, a large chunk of these uploads are old software from years ago just uploaded to have them there as well, in addition to Aminet or MorphOS Files.
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