The *new* C64C retro style cases
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Here is from a recent news letter:

    Excitement and cooperation

    The discovery of the original Commodore C64C molds in the US back in 2015 excited us. Dallas Moore, who bought the molds, started a Kickstarter campaign to produce C64C cases. He offered new cases made from the original Commodore molds. Thomas Koch supported him with renderings of the available colors. We were excited!


    After the dust settled, we couldn't stop thinking about a possible opportunity. Wouldn't it be great to produce some more cases, but in real hardcore retro colors? Of course, it would. Think of enjoying your beloved C64 in a great new but very retro look.

    Thomas Koch, Jens Schoenfeld, and Frank Erstling teamed up and started to work together to achieve this goal. Jens bought the molds and transferred them to a German toolmaker company. Thomas Koch began to define the possible colors and Frank began to establish the RETURN Magazine online shop.



    Passion for detail

    After the molds arrived in Germany they weren't in their best shape. Jens decided to spend them a complete overhaul. First molding tests were made and the result was ok but not as great as anticipated. Several more tweaks and adjustments were made. Sending the molds to the toolmaker, back to the molding company, testing, back to the toolmaker, back to ... you know ... Groundhog Day was sending his regards.

    While on the one front the molds were pushed to the possible limits Thomas has defined the colors for the cases: Beige (original color of the C64C), Gray Beige (bread bin), Black and SX-Style (Umbra Gray top and Aluminium Silver bottom). We measured a lot of original C64Cs, bread bins, SX-64 keyboards and other black parts from back in the days to get a feeling for the right colors and their respective Lab-values. After getting the first color chips and measuring them the colors were way off from our defined values. We supplied the color supplier the new measurements so that he knows on which color axis he should tweak the color components. Well, what was the result?




    The same Groundhog Day feelings emerged on getting the colors right as well. We got two more samples. Now made from the real molds, but the colors were always off and you couldn't see a pattern how and why. After discussion with our molding company, he changed the supplier and the next colors were very close. Great decision. We could even approve already two colors right away! Now we are waiting for the last three colors to approve, but that shouldn't take too much time from now on.

    We spent dozens of days to care for the molds, the right colors, the best possible materials and all associated extra stuff to achieve our dream to sit in front of a new and simultaneous a very retro style C64C.






    Commodore® licensed

    Thanks to the efforts and persistence of Jens who negotiated with the new Commodore rights owners. So that the C64C cases could be sold under the license of Commodore®. Which is really great news, because appropriate Commodore labels will be included for every case.




    What's next?

    If you want to share with us, which case or cases you might want to buy we had set up an online poll to get some rough numbers. We would really appreciate your help here to get more information about the needed amount of cases.

    Click here to get to the poll

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    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma 27.01.2017 - 22:28 ]
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  • »27.01.17 - 22:25
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    I think this is great news. :-)

    Since no new key caps (AFAIK) are in the pipeline, we are bound to use the old keyboards from old C64's. This makes the retro colored cases more suitable. Had there been new key caps as well made in carefully selected matching colors (like for the recent A1200 case/key cap kickstarters), *then* exotic colors like bright red etc would have made sense.

    I will buy one black case (which my white C64C will migrate to), and one "bread bin" colored, which my bread bin will migrate into! :-)

    Sign up for the news letter the above post was relayed from: https://shop.return-magazin.de/newsletter/index.html

    Read more about Individual Computers C64 project here. There will be two follow-up models to the "C64R"! :-)
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »27.01.17 - 22:45
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    Develin
    Posts: 100 from 2003/4/19
    From: Karlstad, Sweden
    Regarding new key caps, there where a kickstarer campaing some time ago -> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/brand-new-colored-keycaps-for-your-commodore-c64--2

    Don't know if that really became reality though...
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12077 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/brand-new-colored-keycaps-for-your-commodore-c64--2
    > Don't know if that really became reality though...

    It's still in the process of becoming reality: http://phase5.eu (project homepage)

    Recent statement given three days ago on the Indiegogo comments page:
    "the production of the caps is near the end, then we start printing and sorting. The production of the last cap needs much longer than the caps before. Because the mould we had to made new for the last cap, only produce one cap a shoot instead of four. You are right – that sounds idiotic. But this was the only way to make the mould affordable. [...] And we have alot of production stops, at the moment it is simple to cold in our production hall. We have the coldest January in Tyrol since 30 years, our heating fails to produce the temperature we need in the hall for production – the need to be absolutly exact. Next week it will get warmer, then we can finish the production of the caps."
  • »28.01.17 - 16:37
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    It seems people from Kickstarter were generally happy with the first run of new 64c cases based on the original molds. If Jens has a reasonable price, I'll get one or 2 for my collection.

    It is a really, really great time to be a C= 8bit user. The market and community are so much more active and vibrant than the Amiga (classic) community. There is some nonsense for sure, but overall for an end user it is a dream. If anyone here uses a C64 at all these days, you REALLY have to get a Turbo Chameleon from Individual Computers when it goes back in production.

    Besides the Turbo Chameleon, there is too much more to list. Another one I am REALLY looking forward to is the uDrive (microdrive) from Jim Drew. That should be out this year with any luck. It is a 1541 floppy drive clone/replacement, that lets you use flux level images. After finishing the 1541 support, he's planning on 1581 support, and the likely 1571, CMD Hard Drive, FD2000/Fd4000 even.

    I could go on a rant, but I won't. I'll just say my C64 running Geos is more useful than a certain AmigaNG solution ;-)

    [ Edited by redrumloa 30.01.2017 - 14:52 ]
  • »30.01.17 - 20:51
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/brand-new-colored-keycaps-for-your-commodore-c64--2
    > Don't know if that really became reality though...

    It's still in the process of becoming reality: http://phase5.eu (project homepage)

    Recent statement given three days ago on the Indiegogo comments page:
    "the production of the caps is near the end, then we start printing and sorting. The production of the last cap needs much longer than the caps before. Because the mould we had to made new for the last cap, only produce one cap a shoot instead of four. You are right – that sounds idiotic. But this was the only way to make the mould affordable. [...] And we have alot of production stops, at the moment it is simple to cold in our production hall. We have the coldest January in Tyrol since 30 years, our heating fails to produce the temperature we need in the hall for production – the need to be absolutly exact. Next week it will get warmer, then we can finish the production of the caps."


    Thanks, both of you! :-)

    Do you have any idea whether key caps will be sold to "normal customers" as well, and not just backers?
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »30.01.17 - 23:38
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