Yokemate of Keyboards
Posts: 2433 from 2003/2/24
dropping ... datatypes makes porting applications even more complicated or impossible.
Not a lot more complicated, and certainly not impossible; if you have enough knowledge to understand how to use datatypes for loading/saving media, it shouldn't be that much of a deal to replace it with Reggae (many well written examples exists), and it opens up a lot of possibilities as a bonus.
Datatypes is obsolete. It should go.
Hopefully it does.Quote:
Andreas certainly has no "agenda"
I meant *you*, not Andreas... Quote:
I have explained why I think that "NG NG" is not automatically becoming successful
of "success" is kind of crucial in that statement. I think nobody is expecting MorphOS to be a general desktop competitor to Windows or Mac anytime soon, so that is probably not a goal to measure success for anyone. But today MorphOS is tied to PPC, and that platform is rapidly dying. MorphOS has already covered everything worth supporting regarding PPC HW, and MorphOS hit the Amiga legacy boundaries many years ago. MorphOS has come as far as it possibly can on PPC. The alternative to "NG NG" is stagnation and death, and because of this I think most of us will define a continued life and evolution of MorphOS on a new ISA as a success in itself. Quote:
current community is more retro orientated and might a new platform even not use just because it is too "modern" to them.
This may apply to the Amiga retro crowd, but hardly to the MorphOS community. I doubt any MorphOS users ever chose MorphOS for retro reasons (the same goes for OS4 I think). We all had Amigas already, what we wanted was the Next Generation, not the past. The retro segment is a completely different one. The problem with current MorphOS is that it turned out to be neither really retro, nor really modern either. It's stuck in the middle. On a sinking 2005 level PPC ship. A MorphOS NG will hopefully cure this. Quote:
You are praising "MorphOS only" software but how much is there and how much will be developed?
I'm praising SW that makes use of all the new features introduced by MorphOS, since this was the reason I chose MorphOS over a Workbench 3.1 based Amiga retro system in the first place. Advocating that SW should restrain itself and only use old standards goes totally against everything I want from MorphOS! SoundBankster is a shining bright example of SW that depends on things like MUI and Reggae as well as the upcoming MIDI and isochronous USB. I don't care if Amiga 68k don't have these features, I'm glad MorphOS does (will have). This is an example of how new and evolved features are enabling
development of SW that wouldn't be possible otherwise. And hopefully more SW will be developed for a MorphOS that is alive and evolving, than a MorphOS that is stagnating on a dead PPC platform. Your option of just rolling over and die "because it will probably not be successful" seems less feasible to me. I'm glad the MorphOS Team is trying, and hopefully good things will come out of it.Quote:
A number of existing PPC software propably is not available in source so cannot be changed and recompiled.
Quite possible. So MorphOS should just roll over and die, instead of at least trying to go forward?
MorphOS will have all important Internet applications, it will play movies and music, it will have competent text editors, gfx editors, etc, from the start. It will have a new SDK with a new IDE, and it will have new options and possibilities for non-retro oriented Amiga SW developers that simply aren't here today. Hopefully developers will appreciate this and find good use for it.
MorphOS is Amiga done right!
MorphOS NG will be AROS done right!