FLAC Bounty - update
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1043 from 2009/2/26
    From: Tczew, Poland
    Nearly 3 years ago Krashan decided to open up a bounty for FLAC support in Reggae. Unfortunately he didn't completed the bounty, he dropped so we still have money to spend.

    I've asked Krashan several times if it's possible to get that bounty done as it was quite close already (progress was posted in this topic: https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=32&topic_id=8807&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&start=0) and I didn't get definite NO by that time.

    Now, as time flies and I don't want to hold that money any more I would you to decide what to do with the cash. The main problem is that the main donor Fraggle is deceased :( I don't feel in position to speak in behalf of him at all.

    The best option would be if Krashan could finish that bounty so the problem will solve itself and we will get one more functionality in MorphOS. I encourage Krashan to finish the bounty but I understand if he won't. So in case if Krashan won't finish it - what should we do with the money?

    The donors list can be found at:

    http://morphos.pl/format-flac-w-reggae/

    If anyone wishes to get his donation back, please drop me a mail or PM and I will
    send his contribution back.
    MorphOS 3.x
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2358 from 2003/2/24
    If not Krashan is up for the job any longer, maybe some other volunteer could be offered to step up?

    Or if nobody is interested to work with FLAC at all, then how about some other codec for Reggae?

    Personally, I would love to see MorphOS native (through Reggae) read/write support for WebP:

    https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP

    :-)
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1106 from 2003/6/11
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    My hobby activity has shifted lately towards classic Amiga and electronics. I see no point in making void promises. While I have released a limited (but working) decoder (only decodes 44.1 kHz, 16 bit streams), bounty requires also an encoder. I cannot predict if I ever write one. Therefore I finally and officially give up the bounty.
  • »12.01.16 - 17:53
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    deka
    Posts: 118 from 2013/2/12
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    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:
    My hobby activity has shifted lately towards classic Amiga and electronics.


    Sad to 'hear' that...
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    pampers
    Posts: 1043 from 2009/2/26
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    In my opinion if Krashan would add meta support and other streams decoding we could close that bounty as finished (without encoder).
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Ruud
    Posts: 333 from 2009/2/2
    From: Hampshire, UK
    Quote:

    pampers wrote:
    In my opinion if Krashan would add meta support and other streams decoding we could close that bounty as finished (without encoder).


    Sounds good to me. If not, I leave it up to you Pampers to re-distribute my donation where you think best.
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  • »13.01.16 - 13:16
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1723 from 2012/3/22
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    @Krashan

    A FLAC decoder without encoder is better than no decoder. There are other ways to encode FLAC really well in MorphOS anyway. But I do hope you are not quitting working on MorphOS though.

    I didn't donate to this bounty, but I think it would be fair that Krashan got paid for the work done at least.
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  • »13.01.16 - 17:03
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1043 from 2009/2/26
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    Seems that Krashan is not interested at all.

    Quote:

    I didn't donate to this bounty, but I think it would be fair that Krashan got paid for the work done at least.


    I don't feel comfortable deciding on my own in here as the main donor is not with us any more.. I think we could pay a half for example and move other half for different bounty.
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  • »14.01.16 - 08:27
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    BSzili
    Posts: 433 from 2012/6/8
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    Quote:

    pampers wrote:
    Seems that Krashan is not interested at all.

    Quote:

    I didn't donate to this bounty, but I think it would be fair that Krashan got paid for the work done at least.


    I don't feel comfortable deciding on my own in here as the main donor is not with us any more.. I think we could pay a half for example and move other half for different bounty.


    That sounds like a fair solution, since half of the work is done. I guess Fraggle would have been okay with putting his money into other MorphOS related bounties.
    I see the jimmies have been rustled.
  • »14.01.16 - 08:42
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1106 from 2003/6/11
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    Yasu wrote:
    But I do hope you are not quitting working on MorphOS though.

    It seems like I am, if by "working" you mean programming. I will probably stay a not very active user. For this reason I do not want to receive any part of FLAC bounty. I'm not short of money anyway.
  • »17.01.16 - 07:51
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Drako^lM
    Posts: 132 from 2005/8/10
    From: Poland , Chelm
    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:
    Quote:

    Yasu wrote:
    But I do hope you are not quitting working on MorphOS though.

    It seems like I am, if by "working" you mean programming. I will probably stay a not very active user. For this reason I do not want to receive any part of FLAC bounty. I'm not short of money anyway.




    Is time for some vacation im morphos coding .
    But you will fixed bugs in you morphos software ?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1043 from 2009/2/26
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    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:
    It seems like I am, if by "working" you mean programming. I will probably stay a not very active user. For this reason I do not want to receive any part of FLAC bounty. I'm not short of money anyway.



    It's not about being short or not, that's not our business at all but it's about being fair and imho fair is to pay you 50% of the bounty money as you did some of the job.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

    pampers wrote:

    It's not about being short or not, that's not our business at all but it's about being fair and imho fair is to pay you 50% of the bounty money as you did some of the job.



    Very good idea
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    zukow
    Posts: 444 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    If not Krashan is up for the job any longer, maybe some other volunteer could be offered to step up?

    Or if nobody is interested to work with FLAC at all, then how about some other codec for Reggae?

    Personally, I would love to see MorphOS native (through Reggae) read/write support for WebP:

    https://developers.google.com/speed/webp/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP



    Reggae video part has been mantained by me since a long time (just check version of decoder files :) ) and most of important image decoders and encoders have been written. Now, i'm working on image filters which will be included in next MorphOS release. Then i'm going to extend video formats (starting from iff anim and all divx, etc.) But i won't work on sound classes, so no Flac encoders/decoders from my side.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1723 from 2012/3/22
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    @krashan

    I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you return someday.
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2358 from 2003/2/24
    @Krashan

    Sorry to hear that! :-/


    @zukow

    Glad to hear that! :-)

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  • »17.01.16 - 12:16
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1723 from 2012/3/22
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    Any news about this? I would really like native FLAC support in Jukebox :-)
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  • »09.03.16 - 17:39
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1043 from 2009/2/26
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    No, krashan definitely said that he won't do anything more in this matter and we've decided in here to pay out 50% of the bounty sum. Thanks for reminding me to finish that one.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Posts: 1043 from 2009/2/26
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    Krashan just got 50% of the bounty sum. We have to decide where to transfer remaining money.
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  • »02.04.16 - 16:34
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1106 from 2003/6/11
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    I'm going to prepare an archive containing current flac.demuxer and flac.decoder binaries as well as source code. I expect to have it ready before the end of April.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Raf_MegaByte
    Posts: 430 from 2004/10/10
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    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:
    My hobby activity has shifted lately towards classic Amiga and electronics. I see no point in making void promises. While I have released a limited (but working) decoder (only decodes 44.1 kHz, 16 bit streams), bounty requires also an encoder. I cannot predict if I ever write one. Therefore I finally and officially give up the bounty.


    Very sad, we lost with you a good coder.
    Hope in the future you can reconsider your position.
    Do you think to release public all morphos sources you are working on and worked in the past in order to keep someway alive the projects for morphos platform?
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  • »03.04.16 - 19:16
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1106 from 2003/6/11
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    Do you think to release public all morphos sources you are working on and worked in the past in order to keep someway alive the projects for morphos platform?
    As for projects being part of MorphOS, it is the MorphOS Team decision. As for those being separate applications not distributed on MorphOS ISO – which ones are you interested in?
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    deka
    Posts: 118 from 2013/2/12
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    Quote:

    Krashan wrote:
    Quote:

    Do you think to release public all morphos sources you are working on and worked in the past in order to keep someway alive the projects for morphos platform?
    As for projects being part of MorphOS, it is the MorphOS Team decision. As for those being separate applications not distributed on MorphOS ISO – which ones are you interested in?




    There is a PCB editor you have started years ago...
    What is the progress of it? Do you plan to finish it one day?
  • »04.04.16 - 08:15
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