Best SimpleMail experience for MorphOS?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 168 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    After some research I found out, there are 3 different recent versions of SimpleMail I can use on MorphOS. 0.40-MOS, 1.1-MOS and 0.41-68k.

    I tried out 1.1-MOS first and I got IMAP via SSL working for my 3 mail accounts. But unfortunately this version crashed very often. As the 1.1-MOS fork is discontinued I suppose it is not very worthwile to file bugs against this version?

    I tried out 0.40-MOS second but this one failed to connect to the mailservers after it asked me for my passwords. Before I installed AmiSSL as I learned 0.40-MOS has no compiled-in OpenSSL.

    What's left is trying out 0.41-68k hoping I get IMAP via SSL working.

    Any advice? Will there be a native 0.41 for MorphOS?
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  • »28.10.15 - 12:36
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  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1513 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    In my experience SimpleMail is too buggy for any use. I tried to use it, 68k and native version, it just crashes and trashes random memory.
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  • »28.10.15 - 12:45
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Korni
    Posts: 325 from 2006/2/23
    From: the Planet of ...
    I used SM for years, one day I just stopped. Now I use web interface with elinks. Dunno if YAM is better - I did not like it.
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  • »28.10.15 - 13:49
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Tom01
    Posts: 135 from 2009/9/20
    I am using Version 1.1
    No Crashes with POP3.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    jPV
    Posts: 1299 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    Don't use any version which uses AmiSSL v3 at least, it trashes memory pretty badly (you can expect OWB crashing and other random things to happen if you do use it).

    68k version did use the buggy AmiSSL v3 at least earlier.. probably still. And that's why 0.40 MorphOS build uses AmiSSL v1 instead, but unfortunately v1 isn't compatible for example with gmail anymore.

    I've been using SimpleMail 1.1 MorphOS (which uses openssl instead of amissl) lately and it's been working quite fine with POP3 and SSL...
  • »28.10.15 - 15:47
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 168 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Thanks for the answers! I see, I won't have much luck with IMAP on MorphOS...

    It is not a big problem since I can use Claws Mail (also a pretty fast email client) on the same machine via Linux. But it would have been much nicer to be able to read my mail via MorphOS.

    It seems a more recent OpenSSL/LibreSSL port would be good for the MorphOS/AmigaOS community?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 9293 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > It seems a more recent OpenSSL/LibreSSL port would be good for the
    > MorphOS/AmigaOS community?

    There has been some work done on https://github.com/jens-maus/amissl in order to provide an updated AmiSSL. I'm not aware of the current state, though.
  • »28.10.15 - 20:32
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  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1513 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    I am not sure if AmiSSL was ever great idea. OpenSSL API (that AmiSSL is based on) is unstable i.e. it is incompatible in newer versions. It is just less effort to link against openssl and scrap shared library model. Years ago I was also looking for shared openssl until I was adviced to scrap that idea :) Newer versions appear to be more stable in that regard, though.

    OpenSSL is in the MorphOS SDK and was updated just few months ago.

    [ Edited by itix 28.10.2015 - 23:08 ]
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  • »28.10.15 - 21:07
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 168 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Interestingly enough the 68K-Version of SimpleMail 0.41 runs smoothly on my Powerbook and I am able to connect to my several IMAP mailboxes.

    Unforntunately I cannot use encryption since SimpleMail supports PGP 2.63 only which does not like my 'modern' GnuPG 2.0.x keys from my Linux machine.
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  • »01.11.15 - 13:57
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 168 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Heard that AmiSSL developement still continues. Nice! :) But is the necessary for the MorphOS and Amiga OS 4 versions of SimpleMail - I thought openssl support is already built in?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    DanicaTalos
    Posts: 354 from 2010/10/15
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    I use SimpleMail 0.42 OpenSSL MorphOS Version and this version works with POP3 without problems.
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  • »25.09.16 - 08:56
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