Morphos Support für envy24ht
  • MorphOS Developer
    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
    From: Germany
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    metatron schrieb:
    Quote:

    pegasos-sigi2 schrieb:

    Why you wait for thomething? Make it selfe !

    Why when its not working?
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=11249&post_id=119643&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1


    The pciE 1x support is indeed a bit limited currently, we will look into that for a future update.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    eliot
    Posts: 564 from 2004/4/15
    is no pcie sata controller supported by mos?
    Just put the sata to pcie and buy a pci sound blaster.
    regards
    eliot
  • »29.06.15 - 20:51
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  • Butterfly
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    metatron
    Posts: 72 from 2011/11/18
    @eliot:
    I already thought about that, but the sam460cr wont boot from it. Regarding the manual the sam can only boot from these:
    Sil3114
    Sil0680
    Sil3512
    PCI only - it seems...
  • »29.06.15 - 21:05
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Jeckel
    Posts: 133 from 2007/3/11
    *double post*

    [ Edited by Jeckel 29.06.2015 - 21:20 ]
  • »29.06.15 - 21:17
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Jeckel
    Posts: 133 from 2007/3/11
    I checked again my Juli@ sound card (Envy24HT) with MorphOS 3.9 on Pegasos2.

    I installed this:
    http://www.audio-evolution.com/drivers_mos/Envy24HT_5.15_MOS.lha

    It also required this to work:
    http://bvernoux.free.fr/openpci-2.1-060605.zip

    After a "AddAudioModes REFRESH", the soundcard is found and initialized:
    [00053] Envy24HT DriverInit
    [00054] Envy24HT found! :-)
    [00055] subvendor = 31305345, Type = 5

    Then I have the new audiomodes available from AHI prefs:
    Envy24HTPrefs.png

    But as soon as I try to send some audio to this output, the driver freezes and no sound is produced.
    There is also no trace on the debug log.


    [ Edited by Jeckel 29.06.2015 - 21:20 ]
  • »29.06.15 - 21:18
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    eliot
    Posts: 564 from 2004/4/15
    Install the Boot.img of MorphOs to sd card and boot from there. The Image should contain the the driver for
    the sata pcie controller. MorphOs than can be installed to hdd connected
    to pcie.

    [ Edited by eliot 30.06.2015 - 04:58 ]
    regards
    eliot
  • »30.06.15 - 05:55
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  • Butterfly
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    metatron
    Posts: 72 from 2011/11/18
    There is no SD card slot on the mainboard. But the sam460cr manual says it can boot from USB.
    But there is still the question: which SATA controller could be supported? On the hardware compatibility site are only two sata controllers mentioned: both are PCI.
  • »30.06.15 - 08:45
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    metatron
    Posts: 72 from 2011/11/18
    There is a Sil3114 controller for PCIe 1x, but I think there is a TI PCIe-PCI Bridge on it because the Sil3114 is a PCI only chipset.

    Does MorphOS support PCIe-PCI Bridges?
  • »30.06.15 - 10:33
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12071 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > There is no SD card slot on the mainboard.

    Pages 3 and 4 of the Sam460cr manual mention an SD card reader. Are you sure it's not there?

    > the sam460cr manual says it can boot from USB.

    ...and from SD card:

    "It is possible to load the operating system from a PATA/SATA harddisk, a CDROM connected on PATA/SATA, an USB key, a SD card or from the network." (page 6, emphasis mine)
  • »30.06.15 - 11:58
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    The SDcard slot is on the bottom of the Sam460ex/cr motherboard .

    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > There is no SD card slot on the mainboard.

    Pages 3 and 4 of the Sam460cr manual mention an SD card reader. Are you sure it's not there?

    > the sam460cr manual says it can boot from USB.

    ...and from SD card:

    "It is possible to load the operating system from a PATA/SATA harddisk, a CDROM connected on PATA/SATA, an USB key, a SD card or from the network." (page 6, emphasis mine)




    [ Edited by Spectre660 30.06.2015 - 07:59 ]
  • »30.06.15 - 12:58
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  • Butterfly
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    metatron
    Posts: 72 from 2011/11/18
    Aaah, I see. I can only find pictures of the sam460cr from above. Okay, so eliots suggestion with an SD card would be a nice idea.

    But:
    MorphOS doesnt seem to support PCIe 1x SATA controllers...
  • »30.06.15 - 13:03
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    Sam460ex Uboot does not support PCIE x1 SATA cards.
    Not sure if MorphOS supports the Sam460ex onboard SATA controller.

    Quote:

    metatron wrote:
    Aaah, I see. I can only find pictures of the sam460cr from above. Okay, so eliots suggestion with an SD card would be a nice idea.

    But:
    MorphOS doesnt seem to support PCIe 1x SATA controllers...
  • »30.06.15 - 13:42
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    Offending application: MorphOS Bugreport Slave

    ---- GENERAL SYSTEM INFO ----

    System: Sam460ex
    Processor: PowerPC 460EX (G3) (V10.4) 1155.000 MHz, bus clock 1155.000 MHz.
    MorphOS 3.8, kernel 51.39.
    1536 MB of RAM at $20000ca8 (expansion memory)
    2 MB of RAM at $00002000 (chip memory)
    Total free memory: 1444 MB.

    PCI devices listing:
    Silicon Image, Inc. ($1095) - SiI 3512 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller ($3512) - SiI 3512 SATARaid Controller ($1095/$6512)
    Silicon Motion, Inc. ($126F) - SM501 VoyagerGX Rev. AA ($0501)
    Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] ($1002) - Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550] ($6759) - Radeon HD 6570 ($1B0A/$9091)
    ASMedia Technology Inc. ($1B21) - ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge ($1080)

    ---- APPLICATION MESSAGE ----

    ==== User Generated Bug Report ====
    Device behind AMedia Technolgy PCIE to PCI bridge not seen.
    In this case ENVy24HT pciex1 sound card
    =================================

    ---- RUNNING TASKS ----

    $22B22410 Workbench
    $200142E8 « mount.library »
    $2004B33C console.device
    $223F1FF0 hid.class<223F0DBC>
    $22471500 hid.class<224702CC>
    $222EC408 lowlevel.library server
    $22B21378 « ConClip »
    $22B72DF8 WLanNetworkHandler
    $222C7290 Bonus Task
    $2254D250 Radeon_Notify
    $223E6C60 hid.class Control GUI
    $22429D50 hid.class Control GUI
    $22465E60 hid.class Control GUI
    $224872E0 hid.class Control GUI
    $200E3BE0 hub.class<200778D4>
    $200B0F90 hub.class<200E169C>
    $22CF7388 MOSSYS:Net/INetD
    $22BB7EC8 RexxMaster
    $2387C660 Ambient Thread 6
    $23873118 Ambient Thread 5
    $233FDB00 Ambient Thread 4
    $23CA72C8 Mixer
    $2009ED00 Log Server
    $22833BD8 « BlankerAPI Manager »
    $225563E0 cybergraphics.library
    $24B33498 WLanNetworkHandler
    $200E2188 « dos.library »
    $200B3090 ramlib
    $22B71B70 « IPrefs »
    $24292A38 WLanNetworkHandler
    $22C46750 NETTRACE
    $24AF24B8 Bugreport Server
    $2006E490 « Skin Manager »
    $233C78D0 Ambient Thread 3
    $222DDF68 Ambient Thread 2
    $2004CCD0 « Menu Handler »
    $22598248 MUI-ImageFlusher
    $222D7D30 hid.class<222D6C0C>
    $22B52B78 ZERO
    $22B48910 USBRAW
    $22B3D2F0 SER
    $22B11960 RAWDISK
    $22A14DD8 DH6
    $2292BD98 DH4
    $226D3880 DH3
    $222E0060 DH2
    $200AB17C sata.device:0
    $275974D0 RANDOM
    $22B05EA0 Ambient Thread 1 [7]
    $228AF9F0 DH1
    $20063FD8 Poseidon Event Broadcast
    $22D63E98 Trance
    $200A8F70 pciusb.device OHCI Task
    $22C3D640 NetStack Kernel
    $22491D90 massstorage.class<22491744,0>
    $2249C508 massstorage.class Removable Task
    $200AC27C sata.device:1
    $222BDF20 sata.device Removable Handler
    $22EB70F0 PoPo (Poseidon Popups)
    $2008BF40 « Public Screen Manager »
    $20078250 usbhw<pciusb.device/0>
    $7FDF6B70 pciusb.device EHCI Task
    $224353F0 hid.class<224341BC>
    $22EE3418 « LayerInfoTask »
    $200345B0 input.device
    $222B5620 RAM
    $200B5188 CD0

    ---- USB DEVICES ----

    Poseidon DevID: "Hub: Vdr=0424/PID=2517-0424-2517-n/a-00"
    Product name: "Hub (Standard Microsystems Corp./2517)" (Id: 2517, Ver: 0002)
    Manufacturer: "Standard Microsystems Corp." (Vendor: 0424 (Standard Microsystems Corp.))
    Device state: highspeed connected hasaddress hasdescriptor configured

    Poseidon DevID: "USB Keyboard-04F2-0116-n/a-00"
    Product name: "USB Keyboard" (Id: 0116, Ver: 0300)
    Manufacturer: "CHICONY" (Vendor: 04F2 (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd))
    Device state: lowspeed connected hasaddress hasdescriptor configured

    Poseidon DevID: "USB Receiver-046D-C52B-n/a-00"
    Product name: "USB Receiver" (Id: C52B, Ver: 1201)
    Manufacturer: "Logitech" (Vendor: 046D (Logitech, Inc.))
    Device state: fullspeed connected hasaddress hasdescriptor configured

    Poseidon DevID: "Ultra Fast Media -0424-2240-000000225001-00"
    Product name: "Ultra Fast Media" (Id: 2240, Ver: 0198)
    Manufacturer: "Generic" (Vendor: 0424 (Standard Microsystems Corp.))
    Device state: highspeed connected hasaddress hasdescriptor configured


    ---- DISPLAY ----

    Ambient screen is 800 x 600 pixels (0 x 0 display), 32 bits, running on "RHD6570.monitor"
    Display mode is $40920052, pixelformat: BGRA32, opacity: yes, src alpha: no, compositing: yes.
    Monitor manufacturer: "ATI Technologies Inc.", driver "Radeon", graphics memory 256 MB, graphics clock 149.970 MHz.



    Quote:

    pega-1 wrote:
    Quote:

    metatron schrieb:
    Quote:

    pegasos-sigi2 schrieb:

    Why you wait for thomething? Make it selfe !

    Why when its not working?
    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=11249&post_id=119643&viewmode=flat&sortorder=0&showonepost=1


    The pciE 1x support is indeed a bit limited currently, we will look into that for a future update.



  • »30.06.15 - 13:58
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12071 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Not sure if MorphOS supports the Sam460ex onboard SATA controller.

    According to a MorphOS team member, MorphOS fully supports the Sam460ex, which I think would include the onboard SATA controller.

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=8931&start=185
  • »30.06.15 - 13:59
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    eliot
    Posts: 564 from 2004/4/15
    So in the end, there no way to use MorphOs with Sam460ex with Sata, Sound und Gfx???

    Which should be a good reason to wait for Xx000.
    regards
    eliot
  • »30.06.15 - 14:05
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Jeckel
    Posts: 133 from 2007/3/11
    The topic was about "Morphos Support für envy24ht" :p
  • »30.06.15 - 14:36
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    Depending on if a pci card would be seen behind a PEX 8112 PCI to PCIE bridge on a PCIEx1 to PCI adapter. If I get some time I will try it .

    Quote:

    eliot wrote:
    So in the end, there no way to use MorphOs with Sam460ex with Sata, Sound und Gfx???

    Which should be a good reason to wait for Xx000.
  • »30.06.15 - 14:37
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Spectre660
    Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30
    And some Sam460's have envy24ht pciex1 cards so this is a a good platform to update the driver on.

    Quote:

    Jeckel wrote:
    The topic was about "Morphos Support für envy24ht" :p




    [ Edited by Spectre660 30.06.2015 - 09:45 ]
  • »30.06.15 - 14:39
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12071 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > there no way to use MorphOs with Sam460ex with Sata, Sound und Gfx???

    There are several ways to do this on the Sam460ex. On the Sam460cr on the other hand...
  • »30.06.15 - 14:46
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    metatron
    Posts: 72 from 2011/11/18
    Quote:

    eliot schrieb:
    So in the end, there no way to use MorphOs with Sam460ex with Sata, Sound und Gfx???



    IIRC the sam460ex is fully supported. Currently you cant buy the sam460ex new but only the sam460cr. The sam460cr is a stripped down sam460ex:
    without onboard SATA, without onboard soundcard, without onboard graphics card.
  • »30.06.15 - 14:51
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12071 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Currently you cant buy the sam460ex new

    https://acube-systemsbiz.serversicuro.it/shop/en/sam-motherboards/10-sam460ex.html
  • »30.06.15 - 15:52
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1031 from 2004/9/23
    Quote:

    metatron wrote:
    Quote:

    eliot schrieb:
    So in the end, there no way to use MorphOs with Sam460ex with Sata, Sound und Gfx???



    IIRC the sam460ex is fully supported. Currently you cant buy the sam460ex new but only the sam460cr. The sam460cr is a stripped down sam460ex:
    without onboard SATA, without onboard soundcard, without onboard graphics card.



    The Sam460ex is fully supported by MorphOS. This includes onboard sound, onboard SATA and onboard graphics.

    When using the 460cr version you need to pick supported hardware from the hardware compatiblity list as the onboard hardware got removed.
  • »30.06.15 - 15:54
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    metatron
    Posts: 72 from 2011/11/18
    Quote:

    geit schrieb:
    When using the 460cr version you need to pick supported hardware from the hardware compatiblity list as the onboard hardware got removed.



    What hardware would you recommend for:
    Graphics?
    Sound?
    Harddisk controller?

    P.S. can you tell me if PCIe->PCI bridges are supported in MorphOS?


    [ Editiert durch metatron 30.06.2015 - 15:24 ]
  • »30.06.15 - 16:22
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    eliot
    Posts: 564 from 2004/4/15
    Quote:

    eliot wrote:
    So in the end, there no way to use MorphOs with Sam460ex with Sata, Sound und Gfx???

    Which should be a good reason to wait for Xx000.


    Ah, sorry guys:
    I meant the Sam460 cr, not the "ex".

    So booting from sd with sata connected to pcie is possible?
    regards
    eliot
  • »01.07.15 - 05:20
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12071 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> The pciE 1x support is indeed a bit limited currently, we will look into
    >> that for a future update.

    > The Sam460ex is fully supported by MorphOS.

    Also the PCIe x1?
  • »01.07.15 - 07:31
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