Efika faster than an X1000 at 3D gaming
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cool_amigaN
    Posts: 745 from 2011/11/30
    PowerMac Sawtooth, upgraded with G4 1.6Ghz, 2GB Ram, Radeon 9800Pro 256MB VRam flashed on slow 2xAGP:

    Quake 2
    8 bit texture = yes
    full texture quality
    1280x1024 = 50 fps


    gl_ext_swapinterval, gl_swapinterval followed by a vid_restart didn't seem to affect performance.

    [ Edited by Cool_amigaN 08.04.2015 - 18:13 ]
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    koszer
    Posts: 1246 from 2004/2/8
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    Quote:

    Cool_amigaN wrote:
    PowerMac Sawtooth, upgraded with G4 1.6Ghz, 2GB Ram, Radeon 9800Pro 256MB VRam flashed on slow 2xAGP:

    Quake 2
    8 bit texture = yes
    full texture quality
    1280x1024 = 50 fps


    gl_ext_swapinterval, gl_swapinterval followed by a vid_restart didn't seem to affect performance.


    You did disable vsync, did you?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 693 from 2006/5/28
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    I have 30,2 FPS on Quake III timedemo 1 (demo four) on my PowerBook G4. No matter what resolution i take...

    [ Edited by Cego 09.04.2015 - 17:38 ]
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    bigfoot
    Posts: 508 from 2003/4/11
    For those of you benchmarking Quake 3, make sure you do the following:
    1) Reboot
    2) Don't run anything that uses OpenGL
    3) Open a shell and type the following command: setenv TGLSYNC 0
    4) Start Quake 3
    5) In the Quake 3 console, type: r_primitives 2
    6) In the same console, type: timedemo 1
    7) Finally type: demo four

    If you get anything below 50 FPS, you're either running a very high resolution on a very weak graphics card or you're using an Efika ;)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 693 from 2006/5/28
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    bigfoot wrote:
    For those of you benchmarking Quake 3, make sure you do the following:
    1) Reboot
    2) Don't run anything that uses OpenGL
    3) Open a shell and type the following command: setenv TGLSYNC 0
    4) Start Quake 3
    5) In the Quake 3 console, type: r_primitives 2
    6) In the same console, type: timedemo 1
    7) Finally type: demo four

    If you get anything below 50 FPS, you're either running a very high resolution on a very weak graphics card or you're using an Efika ;)


    it seems the Powerbook 5,8 is one of those weak machines... I have only 30,2 FPS in 640x480
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 693 from 2006/5/28
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    Thats the version i use:

    MorphOSQuake3 1.0 (30.8.2005) By Mark Olsen, based on Quake 3 1.32b by Id Software

    seems pretty old, but its from the most recent (?) quake III archive from morphos files website.
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    bigfoot
    Posts: 508 from 2003/4/11
    Quote:

    Cego wrote:
    Quote:

    bigfoot wrote:
    For those of you benchmarking Quake 3, make sure you do the following:
    1) Reboot
    2) Don't run anything that uses OpenGL
    3) Open a shell and type the following command: setenv TGLSYNC 0
    4) Start Quake 3
    5) In the Quake 3 console, type: r_primitives 2
    6) In the same console, type: timedemo 1
    7) Finally type: demo four

    If you get anything below 50 FPS, you're either running a very high resolution on a very weak graphics card or you're using an Efika ;)


    it seems the Powerbook 5,8 is one of those weak machines... I have only 30,2 FPS in 640x480


    Unlikely. My PowerBook5,6 gets 60.6 FPS at 1280x854 (the native resolution). At 640x480 it gets 126.2 FPS.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Cego
    Posts: 693 from 2006/5/28
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    ok i've found the bad guys!

    beware of scube and szoom! they cripple your performance! :D

    after deactivating them i got 115FPS in 640x480 and 76FPS in 1024x768
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    vox wrote:
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    redrumloa wrote:
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:
    I know that OS4 has 3D support for a few R200 AGP/PCI cards, what I meant above was the *PCIe* cards that has been hyped by OS4 users for half a decade now.



    I know you know that. My point was there is some issue with the X1000 that makes using a gfx card in a PCI slot practically useless. Some time ago i read some X1000 were getting frustrated so they bought and installed Radeon 9250 in the PCI slot. The resulting benchmarks were much worse than a Sam460. There were some revelation that there was no DMA to the standard PCI slots, or something to that effect.


    It might be an OS4 thing, like it was with DMA on SAM460ex, not necessarily the Nemo boards feature. People used PCI->PCI-E converters to get a bit better speed.

    http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468
    http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468

    SAM440 used to outperform X1000s PCI bus for gfx.

    Hans said:

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    That's theoretical throughput, which can only be achieved by transferring large blocks at a time (usually using DMA). Using DMA for such transfers is only implemented for Sam4x0 machines at this time.



    Has there been any tests of this (and public results) in Linux?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    vox wrote:

    True, I bough it with top notch AmigaKit offered RadeonHD 6870 card and 2D driver for AmigaOS, and now I am supposed to buy new gfx card and new driver? I am glad for those who have corresponding card, but I will rather wait for driver for my card or AmigaOS 4.2 I have prepaid.


    Very strange indeed. First they sell customers a lot of graphics cards of certain models, then they write drivers for *other cards* instead of providing driver support for the ones they sold with their systems...
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