PPC Laptop, something for MorphOS?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 491 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Oh wow, I would not have expected that. Against the odds they succeeded after all!

    Does that mean they will be able to produce and sell the board after the CE phase is done? I had a look at their homepage but it's not quite clear whether they would be an additional donation phase?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11764 from 2003/5/22
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    > Does that mean they will be able to produce and sell the board after
    > the CE phase is done? I had a look at their homepage but it's not
    > quite clear whether they would be an additional donation phase?

    The certification phase has been the final phase and results in an open board design that can be manufactured by whoever has both the will and the means to. As it seems (see bottom of comment #223), there are plans by ACube (the board designers) to do this, but others (A-Eon?) may chime in.
    Unfortunately, for the reasons detailed in the article linked to from comment #224 (summary: components shortage and absurd price increases, resulting in the need for sourcing alternative parts), the electrical schematics and subsequently the PCB design will have to be adapted once again. I'm not sure whether or not all or any of the subsequent phases (fast SI bus simulations, prototype production, testing, certification) will have to be redone, at least partly, after this.
  • »25.05.22 - 08:25
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11764 from 2003/5/22
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    Update:

    > the electrical schematics and subsequently the PCB design
    > will have to be adapted once again.

    New schematics.
  • »17.07.22 - 21:32
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    what a great move donating ten grand, thanx.

    now there is hope this thing will come to live.
  • »18.07.22 - 17:45
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 491 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Yes, now it starts getting interesting. ;-)
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  • »19.07.22 - 09:39
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

    our AMD retailer informed us that the new MXM video cards will not be available. There are other manufacturers producing MXM cards based on AMD GPUs, we are evaluating quotes from different producers.


    that's a bit concerning, tho.
  • »19.07.22 - 18:02
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    all the 1000% price increases are probably going down again in the future, as they are demand related for sure.
  • »19.07.22 - 18:15
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11764 from 2003/5/22
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    Update:

    >> the electrical schematics and subsequently the PCB design
    >> will have to be adapted once again.

    > New schematics.

    New PCB design.
  • »26.08.22 - 23:27
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 491 from 2015/6/18
    From: Funeralopolis
    Interesting GPU choice.. It's an Radeon RX550 Polaris-v4 card. I was not aware these actually work on PPC-BigEndian Linux..
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  • »27.08.22 - 23:31
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Interesting GPU choice.. It's an Radeon RX550 Polaris-v4 card.

    Yes, Lexa/GCN4. This choice has already been made in 2018 (see comment #140) and just upgraded from E9172 to E9174 and thus to 4 GiB VRAM from 2.

    > I was not aware these actually work on PPC-BigEndian Linux.

    Indeed. Let's wait for the prototypes with Linux to see how they cope with this.
  • »28.08.22 - 00:24
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    ernsteiswuerfel
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    Nice, they finally made it! :-)

    "Prototypes in production despite heavy chip shortages". Update 18.10.2022
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  • »20.10.22 - 19:24
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2717 from 2003/2/24
    Quote:

    ernsteiswuerfel wrote:
    Nice, they finally made it! :-)

    "Prototypes in production despite heavy chip shortages". Update 18.10.2022


    Rather "They are doing it", since they are not done?

    But once they *are done* they will have ascended the project to the DRAGON ColdFire and Amiga Walker levels (two other vapor products)... ;-)

    [ Edited by takemehomegrandma 21.10.2022 - 02:09 ]
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
    MorphOS NG will be AROS done right! :-)
  • »20.10.22 - 21:14
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    ernsteiswuerfel
    Posts: 491 from 2015/6/18
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    Hey, where did that kind of pessimism come? :-o Hard to imagine on the ever-prospering Amiga market with all its' positive vibes. ;-)
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  • »20.10.22 - 21:40
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2717 from 2003/2/24
    There simply isn't any way whatsoever that this would ever become self-sustainable outside the incubator, thus it will never be able to live and exist. Sorry.
    MorphOS is Amiga done right! :-)
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  • »20.10.22 - 21:47
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > "Prototypes in production despite heavy chip shortages". Update 18.10.2022

    "Considering all chips, the cost of each prototype resulted 1200 euros higher than what was initially planned"

    That's disastrous. So the final product will either cost at least 1200 EUR (excl. VAT) more than planned just for the 4 mentioned chips, or yet another board redesign with reasonably priced replacement components is due.
  • »20.10.22 - 22:27
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  • vox
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    vox
    Posts: 506 from 2003/11/24
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    Acube laptop is advancing, and hope it will really see light of the day.
    Being PPC Linux only, it is viable platform for Linux PPC revival (Ubuntu has
    stoppped supporting, OpenSUSE etc.), hopefully that Phoenix Moronix can be used.

    Other then that, I dont have much hope for MOS (or OS4) on that, maybe we could do
    AmiKit XE and some Linux rabbit hole for it, like those cancelled AEON Laptop,
    that was stolen :)

    Nice little Laptop, if Linux was optimized for it, and MOS released, would buy it to PowerBook, or LimeBook OS4 603 Class :)
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  • »21.10.22 - 12:03
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2110 from 2003/2/24
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    vox wrote:
    Acube laptop is advancing, and hope it will really see light of the day.
    Being PPC Linux only, it is viable platform for Linux PPC revival (Ubuntu has
    stoppped supporting, OpenSUSE etc.), hopefully that Phoenix Moronix can be used.



    No it won't be even if it ever get released (which seems a more and more obscure outcome with every passing year).

    8 years ago? Maybe, but in 2023 (or 24,25,.....)? It would sell in 3 digits and yes maybe someone somewhere will try to keep Linux updated for it just like it did happen with Pegasos and A1s and is now happening with the X5000.
  • »21.10.22 - 12:59
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11764 from 2003/5/22
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    > maybe we could do AmiKit XE and some Linux rabbit hole for it

    Better use x64/AMD64 for this, really.
  • »21.10.22 - 13:22
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 71 from 2020/5/1
    Quote:

    Kronos wrote:
    Quote:

    vox wrote:
    Acube laptop is advancing, and hope it will really see light of the day.
    Being PPC Linux only, it is viable platform for Linux PPC revival (Ubuntu has
    stoppped supporting, OpenSUSE etc.), hopefully that Phoenix Moronix can be used.



    No it won't be even if it ever get released (which seems a more and more obscure outcome with every passing year).

    8 years ago? Maybe, but in 2023 (or 24,25,.....)? It would sell in 3 digits and yes maybe someone somewhere will try to keep Linux updated for it just like it did happen with Pegasos and A1s and is now happening with the X5000.





    It would've have sold in three digits 8 years ago. Now? Two digits perhaps.

    Regarding the price: the prototypes are hopefully more expensive than the final, bigger, production. Still very expensive of course.
  • »21.10.22 - 17:12
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 11764 from 2003/5/22
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    > Rather "They are doing it", since they are not done?

    Prototypes ready now.
  • »03.12.22 - 23:13
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