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Although talking expenses in terms of actual trial are another matter...expenses to date "might" not be that great.
First, there was talk of contingency. No clue whether that's true.

But second:
item 23-DECLARATION of Timothy Van De Gehuchte
Being curious at the time given rumors of Monard Law involvement I looked up the name:
Timothy Van de Gehuchte, Ben Hermans

Does this not raise the question at least as to whether favors are being performed pro bono?
If so, how much of this is going on?

#6

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Yes, but fear plays a part as well.

It may not be as bad as "pay the protection money or I burn down your restaurant", but it's present.

#6

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The good thing with MorphOS around is that I don't care about OS3 that much. I mean, I use MorphOS as primary system longer than I used a 68k system as primary system. OS3 .x is rather obsolete for a MorphOS user.
Nonetheless I guess Olsen and Richter did a good job.

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All anyone would get out of 3.9 or 3.1.4 alike on a 68EC000 @ 7.14MHz is a migraine. Assuming they even had enough RAM...

Although Jens makes some higher end 68000 accelerators. Hint hint

[ Edited by KennyR 02.10.2018 - 17:25 ]

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Haague&Partner AmigaOS 3.5/3.9 (and Genesis)
Roadshow 68k
AmigaOS 4

We're past the "should have known better" thing and into the realms of masochistic self-harm.

> 68EC000 @ 7.14MHz

The parts in original Amiga 1000/500/2000/600/CDTV are full 68000.

> Jens makes some higher end 68000 accelerators.

Indeed. And beside his ACA500plus with 14...42 MHz 68EC000/68SEC000 there are:
- Minimig with 7...50 MHz 68SEC000
- Zeus68k with 7...50 MHz 68SEC000
- Wicher 500i with 7...50 MHz 68HC000
- HC 508 with 50 MHz 68HC000
- HC533 with 33 MHz 68HC000
- Furia S628 with 28 MHz 68SEC000
- Supra Turbo 28 with 28 MHz 68HC000

Floppies and ROMs said to be following "soon". I don't know who's going to be selling them then. Pretty much everyone listed on their webpage as a distributor has either moved on from Amiga or isn't selling anything Hyperion-based any more and hasn't been for some time.

Anyone feel like stepping up? You only need access to Tim's wife's paypal account to buy some stock, and of course there's the possibility they'll sue you if you "don't sell enough" for their liking. Hyperion tend to do that.

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Don't discount creativity in sales options.
Remember, AmigaOS4.1 FE was given away as a subscription bonus with Amiga Future.

Source

Who knows what they'll come up with?

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Wait, did we just see a burn from number6?

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Not a joke actually. I have a Vampire 500 V2 board. I'll stick with OS3.9 begrudgingly. I'd much, much rather MorphOS 68k.

@thread

Not just 3rd party development, but also 3rd party PR apparently:

slashdot

more
Just change the search limiter of one week if you check this later.

#6

@number6

"Mike Bouma"

Well that was a blast from the past...

> "Mike Bouma" :lol:
> Well that was a blast from the past... ;-)

https://www.osnews.com/user/uid:434/submissions
https://www.osnews.com/user/uid:434/comments
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41240&forum=41 ;-)
http://eab.abime.net/member.php?u=71829


Edit: added EAB link

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 18.05.2020 - 13:44 ]

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Acting in bad faith indeed. What are the criminal penalties under DMCA again?

I bet you're wonderin' how I view
Three-point one-point four when I have sued
For not owned IP you sold before
Between the two of us guys
You know I owned it more

It took me by surprise I must say
When I found out yesterday
Don't you know that I heard it through the grapevine
Not much longer will you be online
Oh I heard it through the grapevine
Oh I'm just about to take you down

Money, money yeah
I heard it through the grapevine
No much longer will you be online
Hipey Hipey yeah...

- Heard it through the grapevine, the Cloanto version

@thread

After stressing the perceived need for distributing ROMs asap:

Source

It seems the method of distribution was revealed here today:

Source

#6

> explaining the incompatibility between Intuition V45 and CyberGFX (klick).

Another link (English instead of German language):

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=73694.msg840671#msg840671

The Avangate link for 3.1.4 went down on Hyperion's website, to be replaced by a totally different pay company, MyCommerce. Not only that, but a huge legal barf of dubious legal enforcability appeared, and I'm hearing reports that pricing in dollars is no longer available.

Goes to show how times change. When MorphOS came out, Hyperion and its fanboys, and Haynie, tried to call it a pirate OS. Yet no legal challenge ever happened, no judge ever said anything about it, and there was never any problem paying for it. You never had to send secret squirrel emails to Ralph or Frank or pretend you were in a different country.

Contrast this to Hyperion, who were very possibly illegally selling copies of OS4 while they were struck off the Belgian register, and are now very possibly illegally selling copies of 3.1.4 - a brandname they never owned, yet have repeatedly abused, and is currently in legal dispute.

So it turns out that 3.1.4 and 4.1 are the true pirate OS's. Let's hope karma finishes the job and ends this truly awful company quickly.

> a huge legal barf of dubious legal enforcability appeared

It actually makes sense to provide the EULA contents this way for everybody to read, opposed to providing it only to purchasers who can view it only after the fact.

> I'm hearing reports that pricing in dollars is no longer available.

No need to rely on reports. Simply trying it yourself you can see that MyCommerce provides selection of each and every currency this world offers, including US dollars.

> Hyperion and its fanboys, and Haynie, tried to call it a pirate OS.

Tried to call? :-)

> Hyperion [...] are now very possibly illegally selling copies
> of 3.1.4 - a brandname they never owned

"3.1.4" is a brandname? :-)

> Let's hope karma [...] ends this truly awful company quickly.

Trial is set for December 2019 :-)

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Yes, but it isn't a EULA. It has EULA like-qualities at the start, but not afterward. More like an extremely vaguely worded statement of how you can't possibly hold Hyperion to account if you happen to break any laws with your use of this product.

Such as if you buy it in America or use it on an emulator, hint hint.

> I'm hearing reports that pricing in dollars is no longer available.

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Not quite the same as being able to buy it from the US in US dollars.

The "EULA" could well be a response to this.

Or the same bad advice that Thomas has been getting here. Oh dear. As if staying out of emulation changes the fact that Hyperion sold IP they didn't own to Manomio in 2010 and don't have the rights to AmigaOS versions other than AmigaOS 4...

Confirmed. Or at least CG seems pretty convinced by his sources.

Amino caused Avangate to stop selling 3.1.4 with a C&D takedown. Time will tell whether Hyperion's new sales point also drops them.

And after all this work Olaf and Thor have put into 3.1.4. As I said much earlier, it's replicated 3.9. Possibly soon including having all the code buried forever. But nobody can say they weren't warned. Should have just gone MorphOS ;)

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>tried to call it a pirate OS. Yet no legal challenge ever happened, no judge ever said anything about it, and there was never any problem paying for it.

The situation is reminiscent of Cloanto's lies against H&P.

>Such as if you buy it in America or use it on an emulator, hint hint.

How would Cloanto have the right to tell me what I can or can't run on an emulator they never wrote!?

[ Edited by Minuous 21.10.2018 - 22:15 ]