I have an Mac Mini g4 I wanted to install Morph on and I have a few questions.

How seamlessly can I run 68k games? I heard games that need a video card won't run properly, can I run AGA games? Is there a way to make UAE emulate seamlessly within the OS?

And about web browsing, I heard OWB is the best browser currently. How well can it handle modern website like Youtube and Facebook? What kind of websites are limited?

Thanks in advance! :)

Hi.

I use UAE to run classic Amiga games.
Therefore I have configured an a1200 in UAE with WHDLoad.
From Ambient via context menu I can select an WHDLoad .slave or .info file of the game and right-click to run it.
A script will start UAE and pass the selected game along to UAE which will then get started by WHDLoad.
That's not super duper seamless but works pretty well.


Manfred

Whichever program and/or game bangs the classic hardware needs uae which emulates the chipsets (gfx and sound). There are some compatible games (mid to late 90s) though and even CIA timing can be overridden (battleduel comes to my mind). I run adfs (mostly for games that don't have a slave, that is) via context menu with "Run in A1200" or "Run in A500". For slaves I run the games via iGame (compatible 68k app) and UAE wrapper. So, the slaves are running perfectly seamlessly. About the the web browsing OWB handles both YT and Facebook nicely though you must understand that a G4 is already a very old cpu with limited speed compared to a Core2Duo and upwards which can handle the web pretty nicely. However on my G4 1.6Ghz both YT and Facebook run ok. On the G5 2.5 I can even run 720p YT videos.

> How seamlessly can I run 68k games? I heard games that need
> a video card won't run properly

It's the other way round. m68k games that can use a graphics card have a good chance to run directly on MorphOS. It's the games depending on the presence of the Amiga chipset (OCS, ECS or AGA) that won't run directly.

> How well can it handle modern website like Youtube and Facebook?

I don't know about Facebook, but Youtube works well with merely watching videos. However, there seem to be problems with logging in to Youtube (and other Google services).

> What kind of websites are limited?

Anything depending on Flash, Java or Silverlight technology. Furthermore, websites which strictly demand a very recent SSL/TLS implementation.

> There are some compatible games (mid to late 90s)

...and also some from this millennium :-)

> OWB handles [...] YT [...] nicely

...unless you want to log in, that is.

For anyone interested, here are my scripts to run WHLoad games from Ambient. I've tried iGame but preferred to use Ambient filebrowser to select the game I want to run.

DownloadSite

Manfred

@asrael22

Thanks, very useful! Installed, up and running (though I still prefer iGame :P).

Btw, the download link seems to make OWB hang, had to use chorme on Android to download it.

I strongly suggest to let Papi use it in his Chrysalis compilation.

Edit: Btw I always wondered whether there could be a script that would launch whdload via e-uae but on double clicking the slave instead of right clicking it..

[ Edited by Cool_amigaN 17.03.2017 - 20:51 ]

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Shouldn't it work with asrael22's scripts if you open Ambient's Mime prefs and:

1) Double click Application/x-amigaos-whdload
2) Click Add
3) Name: Run using WHD
4) EventType: DoubleClick
5) Click Add
6) AmigaDOS: run >nil: c:rx sys:prefs/ambient/scripts/uaewhd.rexx "%sp"
7) Ok, Ok, Save

(didn't try)

Thanks everyone for the helpful comments, I truly appreciate it. I still haven't installed the OS yet because i've been a bit busy but I did order a new stick of ram to upgrade the my machine completely and soon I'll install morph and play around with it!

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You could also check the Library part on this site, and for example Getting Started tutorial :)

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Hmm either this doesn't work or (most probably) it poses an incompatibility with UAELoad (wrapper for WHDload/iGame) since I get an error for UAEload: oops wrong set of arguments in Ambient and it just quits :/

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It works.
Make sure you set the Event Type to 'DoubleClick'.
Then you can double click on the .slave file which should start the game.
My script has a problem if the slave extension starts with Upper case letter (.Slave). With lower case it works.
I've corrected that and uploaded a new version.


Manfred

Are you sure that it works with UAELoad also installed? It seems that even after I set the event type on MIME settings, double clicking the .slave from Ambient calls UAEload..

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Don't know. I don't seem to have UAELoad installed or in PATH.


Manfred

If it works with RMB, I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work with double click too. It's handled exactly the same way in Ambient, just triggered in a different way.

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Thank you for your scripts. So, where is a script which starts UAE?

I modified CallWHD.dos a bit so when a slave is started from Ambient - it starts e-uae and sends commands to it via arexx.
Path is the same in MorphOS as in the emulated AmigaOS. Mounted Games partition.

Code:

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Well, right.
I forgot to mention that my scripts assume a correctly configured UAELoad setup with a VM that has WHDLoad installed.
The C:WHDLoad script which gets called in CallWHD.dos starts UAE using UAELoad.

But your approach is good as well. Maybe even better as it doesn't require UAELoad.


Manfred

[ Edited by asrael22 21.03.2017 - 09:32 ]

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Hmm, not certain. This is already more than a year ago that I had created this all.
This C:WHDLoad is in fact UAELoad I believe. Did I rename this? Not sure anymore.


Manfred

[ Edited by asrael22 21.03.2017 - 09:30 ]

> This C:WHDLoad is in fact UAELoad I believe.

Correct.

> Did I rename this?

No. UAELoad is actually named WHDLoad in the original archive.

Instead of "Wait 13", you could do "WaitForPort UAE I=1 L=20", this waits max 20 seconds, and checks every second.


[ Edited by igracki 21.03.2017 - 18:22 ]

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You will be sending commands to nil this way as UAE port will be ready way before emulated system boots. I've found a solution though.

Create/Modify a file in a system running in e-uae and then get notification on MorphOS, so a command can be send when the emulated system is ready. uae_rcli needs to be quite early in s-s, it doesn't create its own port and has to be run with run.

DOS notification can be get using Magicbeacon, WaitNotify. There is also a new command in the upcoming MorphOS :).

CallWHD:

Code:

euae config:
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AmigaOS startup-sequence:

Code:

http://korni.ppa.pl/temp/WHDLoad_Integration.lha.xz

Scripts improved. Added "wrapper", Ambient filetype action and e-uae conf file.

Great that it was released now.
Nice work.

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Hi all!

Please help Korni!

I installed the WHDLOpener package but the installer indicates an error...

Line: 499
Error message: Unable to create drawer.

PowerBook 1,67 G4
MorphOS 3.11
clean WarmUP Chrysalis 3.11 package

Thx!

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