>> hasn't the New York case (Cloanto vs. Hyperion) been merged with the newer Washington
>> case (Hyperion vs. Amiga, Amino, Cloanto, Itec) and relocated to Washington?

> actually "transferred" as opposed to merged. These are seperate cases and amended
> claims have been filed for each one.

Yes, thanks for providing more accurate information.

Can we fork the legal discussion into another thread please? I'm interested in what Papiosaur is trying to accomplish here :)

Papiosaur, if you download amikit, for example, and try to run it, it'll prompt you for ways to find your already-licensed ROMs. I think this is the ideal solution. Just have Chrysalis be able to point to stuff we already have and use that. I would avoid trying to figure out licensing or do anything potentially sketchy. I'm sure everyone on this thread has probably already paid for ROMs :)

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Interesting solution, but by today's standards questionable.
I have an Amiga with legal 3.1 roms in it, does that mean I have a license to use that software in any device I want to install it on, on multiple devices?

If its a per user answer, your solution makes sense to me as it can't be prevented, there is no registration or licensing process for end users of these roms.

Papi was asking about distribution of the roms with other software.

Its not a practical idea with a free software distribution (or even commercial software), and even AmiKit developers realize that.

So we let this thread go off course with a discussion of where you'd be able to legally source roms.

Sorry for the distraction. Yes, the best course is not to distribute the roms and allow the end users to secure them themselves. It eliminates any legal issues and leaves the matter up to the end user's discretion.

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The legal discussion would just follow it, just like it has a thousand other attempts in the past. Amiga stuff won't ever be around without the legal drama - it's just one and the same now. That's just how it is. Only way around it is to avoid Amiga IP like the plague.

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Yep, bundling AROS kickstart with UAE for playing games is the best bet.

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I'd use that if it could be better integrated.

>> hasn't the New York case (Cloanto vs. Hyperion) been merged with the newer Washington
>> case (Hyperion vs. Amiga, Amino, Cloanto, Itec) and relocated to Washington?

> actually "transferred" as opposed to merged. These are seperate cases

The cases have been merged/consolidated yesterday into one single case.

Could you not do what other have done like AIAB etc where the installer asks for the kickstart 3.1 from the user and possibly the Workbench 3.1 adf disks then you are not distributing anything and you don't have to worry about any kind of licencing as its up to the end user to supply what they need if they want to install the chrysalis packs, i have my purchased software for the amiga emulators so have all my kickstarts and system disks like many others have.
The work you do on these chrysalis packs is great and have installed since my first install of morphos so keep up the good work and thank you.
This is just my view of things and look forward to them all sorting there affairs out and putting the Amiga name back where it belongs.

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Yeah,that's not happening.

And where is that, btw?
As a word describing a female friend?

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I really have no idea how you possibly come to this conclusion. If Cloanto has the legal resources, they will come out on top easily. As a matter of fact, t he way I see it the only reason Hyperion has not been buried already is due to the mercy of Cloanto. I'm guessing the mercy is gone at this point and Cloanto will go in for the kill.

[ Edited by redrumloa 09.08.2018 - 10:35 ]

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Maybe they'll just wear each other down and both will fail.
I'm not encouraged by anyone behavior in this.

Again, two dogs fighting over scraps...left by a corpse.

As it more difficult to distribute this old files and after have bought AmigaForever7, i will ask to BeWorld to propose to install this files :

amigaforever:Amiga-Files/shared/rom/amiga-os-130.rom
amigaforever:Amiga-Files/shared/rom/amiga-os-310-a1200.rom
amigaforever:Amiga-Files/shared/rom/rom.key
amigaforever:Amiga-Files/shared/hdf/workbench-311.hdf

from AmigaForever DVD or ISO to E-UAE drawer in the next pack

Thanks to all for your propositions!



[ Edité par Papiosaur 10.08.2018 - 11:15 ]

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not as in the hands of anyone i meant as how we all know it to be and i can hope cant i that one day they will sort out all there squabbles and bitching and just get on as the hardware is not being made they just want to hold on to what we have where as the community just want to get on with using and developing there hardware yet are to worried about reprisals for doing so, and out of my comment all you could pick on was that bit not the main focus of the message, ah well never mind hey, i am just so happy that the developers and contributors work on this for us all to use and enjoy.