Simplemail no longer connects to Gmail?
  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    I've been using my two Gmail accounts with Simplemail 0.38 successfully for about 2 years now, over the last two days I receive intermittent errors, and now it totally won't connect at all.

    From Monday I got "Unable to Connect to server.pop.gmail.com" a few times in a row, clicking Fetch and it would fetch them eventually.

    Now it will just show this error and not download any emails in last 24 hours, just Error 84/84 the same now.

    Has anyone else had the problem, maybe Google changed some settings.
  • »26.09.13 - 23:42
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3088 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    danwood wrote:
    Has anyone else had the problem, maybe Google changed some settings.


    It seems they have just installed a new ssl cert there, so perhaps that one isn't supported by SimpleMail. Fails for me as well.
  • »27.09.13 - 08:10
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Damn, any solution? I rely on Simplemail for most of my email uses :/ Does it affect YAM too?
  • »27.09.13 - 11:34
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    I saw this on slashdot earlier.

    http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/gmail/kOXt9-8zFqc
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
  • »27.09.13 - 14:19
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  • Butterfly
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    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Quote:

    Intuition wrote:
    I saw this on slashdot earlier.

    http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/gmail/kOXt9-8zFqc


    So it looks like a change at their end then, is there anything we can do or do I basically have to abandon Simplemail in the hope that one day the author will update it again? I'm back to using Outlook on my Windows PC now, very depressing.

    I've noticed gmail failing intermittently on my iPhone too over the last week, very annoying.
  • »30.09.13 - 16:18
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    I don't know how Simplemail works, but I wonder if it is possible to use the CA Certs file from Odyssey with it somehow?
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    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
  • »30.09.13 - 19:25
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  • Cocoon
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    ciVic
    Posts: 45 from 2013/6/2
    To check the SSL connection I tried

    Code:

    openssl s_client -connect imap.gmail.com:993


    This gives me

    Code:

    ...

    Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)
    ...


    I downloaded the OWB ca-bundle.crt and tried

    Code:

    Verify return code: 0 (ok)


    So using this bundle could be the solution, but I also don't know how to install this bundle. According to
    http://www.warp1337.com/content/adding-additional-ssl-certificate-default-ca-bundle-ssl-certificate-chain-verification-ca
    it should also be possible to install all certificates by hand in the format <hexnumber>.0 in the amissl:certs directory. The above commands gave me also
    Code:

    Certificate chain
    0 s:/C=US/ST=California/L=Mountain View/O=Google Inc/CN=imap.gmail.com
    i:/C=US/O=Google Inc/CN=Google Internet Authority G2
    1 s:/C=US/O=Google Inc/CN=Google Internet Authority G2
    i:/C=US/O=GeoTrust Inc./CN=GeoTrust Global CA
    2 s:/C=US/O=GeoTrust Inc./CN=GeoTrust Global CA
    i:/C=US/O=Equifax/OU=Equifax Secure Certificate Authority

    I found the cert for GeoTrust Global CA but not Equifax Secure Certificate Authority.
  • »01.10.13 - 11:02
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    Is this Perl script any use for you?

    http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/cacerts.html
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

    2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
  • »01.10.13 - 11:32
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  • Cocoon
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    ciVic
    Posts: 45 from 2013/6/2
    Solution: Just use the AmigaOS Version 0.39, this one works.

    [ Editiert durch ciVic 01.10.2013 - 12:11 ]
  • »01.10.13 - 12:02
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Stevo
    Posts: 894 from 2004/1/24
    From: #AmigaZeux
    Quote:

    ciVic wrote:
    Solution: Just use the AmigaOS Version 0.39, this one works.

    [ Editiert durch ciVic 01.10.2013 - 12:11 ]


    I can confirm this. Weird.
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  • »01.10.13 - 14:22
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Nice find ciVic! 68K version working fine here, just swapped the executable file over and it loaded all my settings and mails in, seems no different otherwise.

    Wonder why OS4/68K/AROS got an update to version 0.39 yet MorphOS is still on 0.38, looks like that version is no longer compatible with google.
  • »01.10.13 - 23:15
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Wonder why OS4/68K/AROS got an update to version 0.39

    AROS is even further behind (0.37) than MorphOS, according to http://simplemail.sourceforge.net/index.php?body=downloads at least.

    > yet MorphOS is still on 0.38

    The SimpleMail team only compiles for OS3 and OS4. The AROS versions are usually compiled by Mazze, and the MorphOS versions are usually compiled by Henes. Now you know who to ask :-)
  • »02.10.13 - 00:02
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  • Butterfly
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    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Ah understand now.

    To be honest, I can't tell any performance differences between the 68K and MorphOS native port anyway, seems to work flawlessly.
  • »02.10.13 - 01:29
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Ok this was working until Grunch updated me to the new Simplemail 0.40 and all three of my Gmail accounts are no longer connecting again, even with the 68K version. Is 0.40 broken with Gmail for everyone? Any way to redownload 0.39?
  • »09.01.14 - 23:59
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
    Yokemate of Keyboards
    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12132 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Any way to redownload 0.39?

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplemail/files/simplemail/simplemail-0.39/simplemail-0.39-os3.lha
  • »10.01.14 - 00:23
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  • Butterfly
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    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Any way to redownload 0.39?

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplemail/files/simplemail/simplemail-0.39/simplemail-0.39-os3.lha


    Thanks, working fine again with that!
  • »10.01.14 - 00:23
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  • jPV
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    Yokemate of Keyboards
    jPV
    Posts: 2073 from 2003/2/24
    From: po-RNO
    SimpleMail 0.40 68k does work here, but MorphOS version doesn't. The difference between the two is that 68k version uses amissl v3 while MorphOS version uses amissl v1. The reason for v1 for MorphOS port is that amissl v3 is buggy and trashes memory and thus isn't used in MorphOS port. I haven't digged out if amissl is still maintained and could it be fixed... that would be nice.

    I myself have been suspecting memory trashing with 68k version since autumn when I had to change to it when MorphOS version stopped working with gmail. For example OWB crashes pretty quickly after using SimpleMail 68k to gmail. Anyone else getting "Assertion failed errors" with OWB? I seem to get those only after running SimpleMail 68k... so, I've started to reboot after checking mails nowadays.. I wish there would be some new breed to email clients ;)
  • »10.01.14 - 09:30
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    A solution could be to ditch amissl and build a simplemail version using openssl.
    It is opensource, so anyone can feel free to implement the necessary changes :-)
  • »10.01.14 - 10:55
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