I plan to buy a pegasos next spring and I'd like to ask something. How stable is Morphos compared to mainstream OSes like win9x (or even win 2000/XP)? What happens if you ran an application that's badly written? Does the whole OS crash and you have to restart? Or you close the application and everything is fine? Is momory protection already implemented or this is planned for a future release? Wouldn't it be nice if Altivitec was supported by the gfx card drivers? I know, the power of pegasos is already more than enough for existing apps but it would be better if we could get 100% out of the system. Why Genesi don't intend to support the onboard floppy drive on MOS?

I had a crash three days ago when Voyager decided to go tits up.

About floppy-support.. well it's kinda obsolete medium. CD/DVD/network/Zip/Jaz/USB-flashmems have replaced it.

"About floppy-support.. well it's kinda obsolete medium. CD/DVD/network/Zip/Jaz/USB-flashmems have replaced it."
yes, but if you buy a standard pc mobo, the vendor is supposed to supply drivers for everything that's onboard, doesn't say "it's there by accident". if they didn't want an FD on the pegasos they should remove the floppy connector from the mobo.

The Pegasos can run different operating systems.
Linux is supporting it.
But not MorphOS.

I hope not.. MOS is not the only OS for
Pegasos

>I plan to buy a pegasos next spring and I'd like to ask something.

Good idea !

>How stable is Morphos compared to mainstream OSes like win9x
>(or even win 2000/XP)?

MorphOS is stable.
More than Win9x/ME but not as robust as WinXP or Linux.

>What happens if you ran an application that's
>badly written? Does the whole OS crash and you have to restart?

Well, it depends how bad the application crash.
If it "only" write to 0, it should not be nasty. But if it traches the

exec structure then you are dead

>Or you close the application and everything is fine?
I advice to "hide" the application's window, but don't try to remove it.

>Is momory protection already implemented or this is planned for a future release?

Well, it's but not in the ABox. And the ABox is thes space where
all current software are running, so in a user point of view, no
memory protection for now. The QBox will solve that pb in the future.
The goal of the ABox is to provide an "AmigaOS" like environement
for the application. nevertheless, it doesn't allow clean/proper
memory protection

>Wouldn't it be nice if Altivitec was supported by the gfx card drivers?

I don't know maybe.
However, other part of the OS (may gain more) like bitmap processing or CopyMem might
be optimize for Altivec. But I really don't know !

>I know, the power of pegasos is already more than enough for existing
>apps but it would be better if we could get 100% out of the system.

What do you mean ? MorphOS is not fast enough ? ...

>Why Genesi don't intend to support the onboard floppy drive on MOS?

Well, I don't think it will ever be done. There is so much stuff
to do before (as I see) and a floppt drive is quiet obsolete.
However, if you really want one, you can buy an USB one. Should work
under MorphOS.

About MP, it's only needed because of bad application, then don't use it!
Ok, sometimes we don't have the choice !!

Bye

isn't the Qbox yet done?I thought that all the native MOS apps, run on the Qbox... When Qbox is ready will the existing applications that are MOS native and currently running on the Abox, be redirected to the Qbox, or this will be an option for the software that will be made from then on? Anyway THANX FOR YOUR HELP SO MUCH!!!

I hope on a tutorial on MorphOs for users that never had an Amiga, or had one and sold it 8 years ago and don't remember anything (like me )

Quark (the kernel) != Q-Box (the future API).

Everything is running in the ABox.

As far as I understood, once the QBox will be finished. the ABox will
be on the top of the QBox, and will ask to the ABox to do stuff.

Example: an application of the Aox ask to open a window, then the ABox
ask to the QBox to open the window ...

If i'm wrong, feel free to corect me

Bye

MorphOS is as stable as a very stable Amiga system (or slightly more)

A/Box still lacks memory protection (for compatibility reasons), so it
will not be as stable as memory protected operating systems, but for
something with the AmigaOS API - nae bad, nae bad!

Hmmm...this machine crashes quite a lot.

At least once every two nights, which is much more than my a1200 ever
did.

I still love it though.

wow robert what did u do to piss of the computer gods so much?

@poundsmack:



I often wonder the same thing myself - f*cking installer
still isn't working.
I even downloaded it again and replaced what was in 'C'.
still no worky.

I guess I need to make a sacrifice of some sort.

Try running off of the CD for a while to see if it may be something you installed. Make sure that you have 68k libs and MOS libs seperated. Move things out of wbstartup. Comment out lines from your user-startup, do all the things normally done when debugging. Sooner or later, you will find the offending lib/class/program!

For me it's the opposite. I would be lucky to run my A4000 for about 20 or 30 minutes before it crashes. ;)

The Peg here is rock solid in most cases. It generally doesn't crash with my regular use (Kaya MP3 Player, IBrowse, Miami, Yam). Umm... ANd well it's generally well behaved with any other software. I guess it's just when I'm experimenting with something that might not be "system friendly". :P

@targhan:

how do I check if the libs are separate?

How do I tell one from the other?

Sorry if this is really obvious.

Aha!

Well, if you didn't put anything in there by hand, everything in mossys:libs/ should be MorphOS Native. The very FIRST thing you should do is look for things in sys:Libs that have the same name as those in mossys:libs. Get rid of the duplicates (one at a time, to a tempoarary directy so you can recover them if needed). That should help you tremendously.

A lot of times, mos librarys are "name.library.elf", but it isn't a tell all.

@targhan:

cheers for the tips.

Just before I start trying to track it down, I noticed one more thing,
which may or may not make a difference.

I downloaded Imagefx lite and powerstation (I know I don't need it -
was a bit over keen).

The installer for Powerstation works!!!
ImageFX doesn't, nor does anything else.

This truly baffled me.

robert i have to say i have never heard of so many problems come from 1 machine. if it keeps up just back up your files format your drives and start new.