updating MorphOS without Burning ISO
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
    From: Delaware, USA
    I saw this on here somewhere but couldn't find it. I wanted to get around to
    updating 3.0 to 3.1, but ran ot of discs. I had two, but, jalepeno coastered one using rt click
    and selecting burn to disk, and the other one I burned incorrectly (data) on frying pan.
    I thought there was a process to initiate the installer somehow, not just copying all the
    files to Morphos
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  • MorphOS Developer
    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    If you have Mac you can boot from USB stick.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/28
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    Never had Jalepeno do anything bad.
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2325 from 2003/2/24
    Well there is also the option to boot from an ISO....

    But that would require invoking the 3.1 boot.img from the OF-prompt, no idea how to it.....

    IMO it would be nice if iWizard could atleast be started from 1 major revision down to it's own, so you could just mount the 3.1 ISO and start it from there...
  • »12.05.13 - 21:04
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  • Butterfly
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    Get27
    Posts: 90 from 2004/8/23
    From: Vinzelles, France
    An update button would be nice :-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
    From: Delaware, USA
    all excellent suggestions. rather than messing with OF, I guess I'll get some more blanks later this week, and try again.
    @ itix it's a macmini.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Tcheko
    Posts: 534 from 2003/2/25
    From: France
    If the system is already installed on hard drive, you can try the following for updating the system. It does not boot from USB.

    1. Copy MorphOS.iso to some MorphOS partition. In default layout scheme, DH2: might be a good candidate.
    2. Mount BOOT: (DH0:) partition with Mounter.
    3. Mount MorphOS ISO and copy mac_ppc/boot.img to your boot partition.
    4. Reboot
    5. Hold CTRL+ALT+O+F until OpenFirmware shows up
    6. Type : boot hd:,\boot.img bi="DH2:MorphOS.iso"

    This procedure works for Mini and shall for all kind of Mac hardware.

    I had updated my old Efika via USB numerous time but I don't remember the OF command line.

    I had once booted from USB stick on a Powerbook but to be honest I didn't wrote down the command line...
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  • »13.05.13 - 06:48
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  • Caterpillar
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    Thomas
    Posts: 31 from 2004/3/31
    I don't know if the Mac is special, but for my Peg this procedure worked well for several releases now:

    - copy ISO to work partition
    - mount kernel partition
    - mount the ISO, rename the old boot.img and copy the new boot.img to the kernel partition
    - reboot
    - check that the splash screen shows the new version
    - mount the ISO again and run the installer

    No need to enter open firmware.
  • »13.05.13 - 12:51
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Thomas,
    Quote:

    I don't know if the Mac is special

    One difference on Macs is that the boot partition has to be "blessed" (and of course boot image has to be on HFS partition)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    Henes
    Posts: 507 from 2003/6/14
    Or buy one CDRW disc you will use for all upcoming updates, including coasters.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    you can also use TFTP if you have another computer running linux, macos or windows on the same network : )
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
    From: Delaware, USA
    I went the conventional route and burned the iso corrctly with frying pan. I may forget steps, so is
    there any after installation step I may forget. I relocated Morph key to devs, and my frying pan optical key to
    L. I noticed OWB re-initalized fonts prior to starting up. I assume that's normal and I don't need to d/l fonts again
    right?

    Thanks again
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    xyphoid
    Posts: 870 from 2008/7/11
    From: Delaware, USA
    what's the deal with the clock? i thought the update was supposed to fix that. I've lost 4mins in 24hrs. was there a script
    that I missed somewhere?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    @ Tcheko

    I assume there is something wrong with this line:
    Quote:


    boot hd:,\boot.img bi="DH2:MorphOS.iso"


    because I always get complaints from OF that the device or volume is not valid although the machine works without problems. I placed my ISO file on DH1 (System) and tried to start from there but it fails. Is the line wrong or do I need to do something more? It's a Mac Mini.
  • »04.06.13 - 16:39
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  • Butterfly
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    Norbi
    Posts: 99 from 2004/6/19
    Quote:

    Jupp3 wrote:
    Thomas,
    Quote:

    I don't know if the Mac is special

    One difference on Macs is that the boot partition has to be "blessed" (and of course boot image has to be on HFS partition)



    I have Morphos in FAT partition
    Macmini and PM can start from fat disk/pendrive and can install morphos from iso in FAT partition.
    This is easy.
  • »04.06.13 - 21:34
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  • Caterpillar
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    Thomas
    Posts: 31 from 2004/3/31
    Jupp3,
    Quote:

    Thomas,
    Quote:

    I don't know if the Mac is special

    One difference on Macs is that the boot partition has to be "blessed" (and of course boot image has to be on HFS partition)




    I recently acquired a Mac Mini G4 and installed MOS 3.1 on it and later upgraded to 3.2. This is the procedure I used to upgrade:

    - download ISO to work partition
    - mount the Boot partition
    - rename the old boot.img and bootinfo.txt
    - mount the ISO and open the mac_ppc32 directory
    - copy new boot.img and bootinfo.txt to the Boot partition
    - bless the new files using the HFSSetMacBoot program as described in the boot.txt file
    - reboot
    - check that the splash screen shows the new version
    - mount the ISO again and run the installer

    No need to enter open firmware.
  • »05.06.13 - 09:58
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    connor
    Posts: 570 from 2007/7/29
    In addition to #14 here is the exact message:
    MAC-PARTS: specified MAC partition is not valid can't OPEN: pci2/ata-6@D/@0:3,\\:tbxi
    Can't open device or file
  • »06.06.13 - 17:36
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
    From: Nederland
    Quote:

    Jupp3 wrote:
    Thomas,
    Quote:

    I don't know if the Mac is special

    One difference on Macs is that the boot partition has to be "blessed" (and of course boot image has to be on HFS partition)




    I just updated my PowerBook to 3.3 by copying boot.img to boot: and then rebooting and running IWizard from the mounted iso.

    I didn't have to bless the partition.
    1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

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  • »18.09.13 - 20:45
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2325 from 2003/2/24
    You have to "bless" the boot-file, not the partition.

    In a standard MorphOS-setup that boot-file is "bootinfo.txt" (which points to boot.img with the option for arguments).

    Only when you change that (like adding boot-arguments) you have to "rebless" it.
  • »18.09.13 - 20:49
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2325 from 2003/2/24
    You have to "bless" the boot-file, not the partition.

    In a standard MorphOS-setup that boot-file is "bootinfo.txt" (which points to boot.img with the option for arguments).

    Only when you change that (like adding boot-arguments) you have to "rebless" it.
  • »18.09.13 - 20:51
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Intuition
    Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24
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    Jacadcaps has informed it's not a good idea to do the upgrade this way as it is not tested. Just thought i'd warn anyone who is thinking of doing it.
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  • »19.09.13 - 16:53
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1049 from 2004/9/23
    Quote:

    Intuition wrote:
    Jacadcaps has informed it's not a good idea to do the upgrade this way as it is not tested. Just thought i'd warn anyone who is thinking of doing it.


    Well, it is not only wrong, it will not work anymore! It will fail badly and you have to deal with a non booting system afterwards, because components are no longer compatible.

    At that point you wish to have a proper system cd to boot from.

    If the internal drive is broken you can always use an external drive to boot the cd from.

    A MorphOS CD is not only an install media, it is also a recovery CD.

    Geit
  • »12.08.14 - 10:00
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