Aladdin 4D
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >>> Ted got screwed.

    >> Pyromania is Bill, not Tedd ;-)

    > Sorry, thought it was the same company.

    Tedd Gallion declared his departure from DiscreetFX a while ago. See:

    "CEO DiscreetFX December 2004–Juli 2011"
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedd-gallion-abb1256


    Edit: Seems he's back: "Managing Director DiscreetFX Jan. 2021–[...]"

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 07.10.2022 - 09:56 ]
  • »07.05.13 - 18:04
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    Thanks again Andreas.
    I missed that one.
    So another experienced businessman leaves the market.

    [ Edited by Jim 07.05.2013 - 19:11 ]
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »07.05.13 - 18:10
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    >> Aladdin 4D 6.0 will work native on the platforms listed below.
    >> Mac OS X
    >> iPad
    >> Amiga OS 4.x
    >> MorphOS 2.5
    >> Linux
    >> AROS
    >> [...]
    >> http://www.discreetfx.com/Aladdin4D.html

    >...has shrunk to:
    > "Aladdin 4D 6.0 will work native on the platforms listed below.
    > OS X Lion
    > iPad"

    It's back again:

    "Aladdin4D is going Shared-Source! This will provide faster updates & new features
    [...]
    Aladdin 4D 6.0 will work native on the platforms listed below.
    OS X Mountain Lion
    iPad
    Amiga OS 4.x
    MorphOS 3.x
    Linux
    AROS
    [...]
    Aladdin 4D 6.0 Stable Release 6.0.0.26 (Internal Beta) / Janurary 17th, 2013.
    "

    Also:

    "In an effort to renew development efforts for Aladdin4D we will be making it shared-source commercial software. What this means is source code to Aladdin4D 5.x & 6.0 will be shared with key programmers in the AROS, AmigaOS 4 & MorphOS communities. Money will be paid out to any major changes they make to the code for example adding a MUI interface, native MorphOS or AmigaOS 4 version. completing Aladdin 4D 6.0 for OS X Etc. [...] When DiscreetFX acquired Aladdin4D the dream was to have a modern maintained beginners 3D animation/rendering package for AmigaOS,MorphOS & AROS. Hopefully the shared-source initiative can make that dream come alive."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=734163

    "This shared-source initiative should help AmigaOS/MorphOS/AROS programmers and no longer benefit those only pretending to do the work and not even on AmigaOS."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=734170
  • »09.05.13 - 10:08
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    Sounds reasonable, but I still can not shake the feeling that it's all smoke and mirrors ...
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  • »09.05.13 - 11:15
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  • Jim
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    In my opinion, Bill was probably still holding on to the hope that his friend would act responsibly.
    Although I don't feel real comfortable with the fact that you can order it again (when the native version doesn't exist yet).
    Still, Bill seems trustworthy.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »09.05.13 - 15:55
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    discreetfx
    Posts: 388 from 2003/7/26
    From: Chicago, IL
    @Jim

    Customers requested that it be made available again.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Bill was probably still holding on to the hope that his friend would act responsibly.

    No longer are they "friends" I'd say:

    "Aladdin4D current programmer "Deron Kazmaier" was fired on May 9th, 2013 do to lackluster performance. It's doubtful that he ever had the technical skill for developing 3D animation software. He was never even able to figure out how to make the program render anything but garbage. I blame myself in part for believing he could work on this type of software without any prior proof of concepts from him."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=734255

    Btw, what's also interesting is the Wikipedia article on Aladdin4D and its history. Does suspiciously look like the DiscreetFX CEO is an avid Wikipedia editor ;-)
  • »10.05.13 - 01:25
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I still can not shake the feeling that it's all smoke and mirrors ...

    "Aladdin4D is still in development. "
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=753428

    "New better developers are working on it now. "
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=753433

    "Aladdin4D 6.0 is back on track for AmigaOS 4"
    http://aladdin4d.blogspot.com/2013/08/back-on-track.html

    "progress is being made daily on updating the 5.x code-base into a new version 6.0 for AmigaOS 4, MorphOS & AROS. [...] The 5.x code is well documented and feature complete and renders beautiful pictures out of math. Beginning anew on Aladdin4D 6.0 in 2013 allows us many modern programming conventions that weren’t around even back in 2009. This should make version 6.0 when it finally ships a more solid well rendered release."
    http://aladdin4d.blogspot.com/2013/11/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html

    "AmigaOS 4.1 is one of the planned operating systems that will be support by Aladdin4D 6.0."
    http://aladdin4d.blogspot.com/2014/08/rosetta-deja-vu.html

    "Programmers are working on it, I just don't have a release date for you yet."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=773657


    Edit: added more quotes

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 22.09.2014 - 14:44 ]
  • »26.11.13 - 10:39
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    >>"New better developers are working on it now. "
    >http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=753433

    I can actually believe this.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »27.11.13 - 01:53
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > As someone who purchased iFusion PPC from Jim Drew long ago, I don't think it
    > ever worked even on AmigaOS3.x, in any way that was really usable and productive.

    It may be improved in the future:

    "I came across [...] the complete source code for FUSION-PPC, the PowerMac emulation we released. So, when WinUAE's PPC emulation is sorted out I will give this a whirl and maybe even update it."
    http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=974046
  • »04.09.14 - 20:59
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12074 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Customers requested that it be made available again.

    It will be from A-Eon's AMIStore, I guess:

    "A-EON Technology [...] has purchased the AmigaOS source code and development rights for Aladdin4D from DiscreetFX. [...] A-EON will exclusively own the Aladdin4D 68k and PPC source code, domain name, brand and rights for all AmigaOS and related versions including emulation and future MorphOS and AROS ports."
    http://www.a-eon.com/?news=12-12-2014
    http://www.a-eon.com/PDF/News_Release_Aladdin4D.pdf
    http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10830802_914906548519731_707130211807904091_o.jpg
  • »11.12.14 - 16:23
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