amikit on uae and morphos
  • Cocoon
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    rigardie
    Posts: 45 from 2006/3/21
    any one who works with uae+amikit on morphos?
    thanks
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    diezi7
    Posts: 167 from 2005/7/26
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    It does not work for me.
    It moans about uaescsi.device

    will try AIAB soon. :)

    I think it might be quite slow
    running on Pegasos hardware.
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    If it asks for uaescsi.device, then enable it in config file with:
    scsi=true
    scsi_device=ATAPI

    It should add scsi/ide support (mainly for cd support).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    I dont tryed Amikit, but AIAB. AIAB on UAE under morphos is extremly slow. It's unusable.
    I think it's the same thing for Amikit, or slower.
  • »17.01.07 - 13:47
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1923 from 2003/10/19
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    Yes both are much to slow to be of any use. The best way to use E-UAE I have found is to write a script to launch it when you click on an ADF file for demo that requires it. Mine run in window mode, so it looks like the app is running native.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    @Acill:

    Can you share with us this script, please?
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  • Cocoon
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    rigardie
    Posts: 45 from 2006/3/21
    yes is a very good idea!!! please give to us this program

    thanks


    [ Edited by rigardie on 2007/1/17 19:27 ]
  • »17.01.07 - 19:23
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  • Fab
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    Fab
    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    With ambient, you can add actions to application/x-adf filetype. I made two, one for A1200 config and one for A500 config. The command is just something like:
    run >nil: programs:emulation/uae/uae -f a1200-hires.conf -0 %sp

    As you can see it only considers the first disk, so you would have to insert manually other disks later in the game, but whatever. :)


    [ Edited by Fab on 2007/1/17 19:39 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1923 from 2003/10/19
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    Quote:


    Fab wrote:
    With ambient, you can add actions to application/x-adf filetype. I made two, one for A1200 config and one for A500 config. The command is just something like:
    run >nil: programs:emulation/uae/uae -f a1200-hires.conf -0 %sp

    As you can see it only considers the first disk, so you would have to insert manually other disks later in the game, but whatever. :)


    [ Edited by Fab on 2007/1/17 19:39 ]


    This is just what I have done.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    diezi7
    Posts: 167 from 2005/7/26
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    If it asks for uaescsi.device, then enable it in config file with:
    scsi=true
    scsi_device=ATAPI

    It should add scsi/ide support (mainly for cd support).

    Thanks for the advice:
    Now Amikit runs, but it hangs on the first
    booting moments...

    I?ve changed proccesor type but can?t make it work :)
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 147 from 2003/9/5
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    This is not my cup of tea, but still I would think they would be more of use trough MorphOS trance then on uae... for games there's always minimum setups

    An Idea I got was using the 68k uae since it doesn't emulate the 68k processor it could use the trance jit..

    [ Edited by pixie on 2007/1/17 22:13 ]
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
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    This is not my cup of tea, but still I would think they would be more of use trough MorphOS trance then on uae... for games there's always minimum setups

    An Idea I got was using the 68k uae since it doesn't emulate the 68k processor it could use the trance jit..



    I examined this possibility for Basilisk II (which uses a UAE based 68k engine) but it is no go. They work differently and have different goals...
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
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    @itix

    Since BasiliskII doesn't emulate custom chips I think that it could be easier on BasiliskII than on UAE.

    I wonder if it could be possible to trap illegal 68k instructions from Trance. I guess that it should be possible to be able to "pause" trance to be able to execute some other code and later continue the emulation.

    What problems did you find when you were thinking about it?

    -edit- uhhh ok... that wouldn't be a major problem but we would need to be able to catch the memory accesses to the first 4KB of ram and I don't think we can do that easily with the current API... a patched Trance that redirects the accesses to the first 4KB to other part of the memory may be enough.

    [ Edited by Crumb on 2007/1/19 12:10 ]
  • »19.01.07 - 11:06
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:


    I wonder if it could be possible to trap illegal 68k instructions from Trance.



    It is and not even difficult.

    Quote:


    -edit- uhhh ok... that wouldn't be a major problem but we would need to be able to catch the memory accesses to the first 4KB of ram and I don't think we can do that easily with the current API... a patched Trance that redirects the accesses to the first 4KB to other part of the memory may be enough.



    There is nothing to do about it. Such changes into Trance wont be made and even if there existed public MMU API there are other restrictions why zeropage can't be used for user applications.
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  • »19.01.07 - 14:55
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