hi folks,

its been quite some time now since the problem started; the problem is, mos cdfs automatically selects joliet over rockridge, thus causing some compatibility issues (i.e. the comments are not available, as well as file protection bits).

i was curious if someone knows the cure for the problem. the bad side is that the file names will get cut by windows if no joliet extension is present, but again, the fact that disc carries joliet extension makes it impossible to use amiga extensions.

any idea how to handle the problem?

thanks
tom.

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You mean it didn't always do this on the same discs? Or you mean it started doing this on the discs you burn recently?

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Are you sure this means Joliet is selected? The same thing would happen if you burn RockRidge without Amiga extensions.

Usually RockRidge has precedence over Joliet, if this is no longer the case for you it would suggest that whatever program you are using to burn your CDs is creating faulty or otherwise unrecognizeable RockRidge data...


- CISC

@ Error

My units (DVD reader and DVD writer) are accessed as CD0: and CD1: by MorphOS CDFS.

I was never able to read Amiga file comments and Amiga protection bits with this filesystem.

So when I want to access comments and protection bits I simply mount two new logical units CD2: and CD3:, associated to the same physical units, but using CacheCDFS as filesystem. You need to put CacheCDFS (or even AmiCDFS that is freely available on Aminet) in L:, and create a MountList in DEVS: (then this needs a "Mount CD2: CD3: from DEVS:MountList" command in a shell) or specific clickable mountfiles in DEVS:DOSDrivers (if you are an "icon-only" user).

I never had problems with both filesystems working together.

@ CISC

I presume MorphOS CDFS is able to read usual RockRidge extensions, but does not recognize ISOAmiga RockRidge extensions introduced by Angela Schmidt and used, for instance, by MakeCD and FryingPan.

[ Edited by DoctorMorbius_FP on 2006/9/21 20:47 ]

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I don't see why not, it should work just fine.

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No, it's the other way around. Amiga comments have been working properly since 3.24 (before that they came out as trash, and 1.4.5 comes with 3.42), protection bits have worked since always afaik.

MakeCD burned CDs with the latest makecdromfs.module work just fine here, I frequently burn CDs with both Joliet and Amiga RR, and never encountered any problems reading them, including comments and protection bits .. dunno about FryingPan as I've never tried it.


- CISC

Btw, would be great if MOS would show CDDA's icons to provide acces to audio tracks as to normal data tracks. Also showing mixed CD's icons (data + audio) would be nice. Dreams... ?

@ CISC

Sorry, what I reported was 50% wrong. I'm using DVDs for data backups since too much time!

Tried some CDs and Amiga file comments and protection bits are read by MorphOS CDFS.

But there are problems with DVDs.

The latest versions of FryingPan are able to put Amiga file comments and protection bits on DVDs, and CacheCDFS reads them while MorphOS CDFS doesn't.

Where is the wrong behaviour? In FryingPan or in MorphOS CDFS?

@ r-tea

Install CDDA-FileSystem by Uwe Ryssel (Aminet:disk/cdrom/CDDA-FileSystem.lha).

CDDA-FileSystem is a filesystem for CDDA tracks. It creates a DOS volume that contains an audio file for each audio track on CD. The audio file format can be RAW, AIFF and WAVE.

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cdrive2 (MorphOS 1.5) does that.

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Are you sure they are really Amiga comments and protection bits? They could be standard RockRidge comments/bits, which cdrive doesn't support (and CacheCDFS might convert).

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Hard to tell without a sample CD, but my guess is that FryingPan doesn't actually burn Amiga RockRidge, but rather plain RockRidge instead...


- CISC

@ CISC

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Are you sure they are really Amiga comments and protection bits? They could be standard RockRidge comments/bits, which cdrive doesn't support (and CacheCDFS might convert).

No, I do not know how I could answer this question. But I will ask Tomasz Wiszkowski, the author of FryingPan, and can send you a DVD.

[ Edited by DoctorMorbius_FP on 2006/9/22 20:22 ]

@ DoctorMorbius_FP
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And what are the results?

@ r-tea

Actually I completely forgot this subject.

(Well, the CacheCDFS trick works fine, so this was a low priority issue for me...)

But now that the problem has emerged again, I will write this e-mail and ask Tomasz (I also have a few requirements about some minor capabilities that may be inserted in Frying Pan, so there is more motivation this time). Let's hope I do not forget again!

[ Edited by DoctorMorbius_FP on 2006/11/5 12:58 ]

Maybe you could grab iso of a CD burnt by Fryingpan and send it to CISC? Some tiny image with couple of files with specific protection bit patterns and file comments + list output from the CD under CacheCDFS should be helpful.

@ Piru

> Maybe you could grab iso of a CD burnt by Fryingpan and
> send it to CISC? Some tiny image with couple of files
> with specific protection bit patterns and file comments
> + list output from the CD under CacheCDFS should be
> helpful.

I did not insist because I assumed CISC thought the problem was in FryingPan.

I will follow your suggestion as soon as I can. Sending a small ISO image, instead of a physical CD or DVD, is fast and efficient, and probably will be useful.

Right. It should be easy to make sure the disc misbehaves under MOS, and then creating ISO of it.

I'm interested in this, also...

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4876&forum=16

Hi all,

Up to know I had to use AsimCDFS to read the file comments on Data DVD's which I had burned with FryingPan and which worked fine. But now I use the new Trance 50.12 (and I have to as otherwise IBrowse 2.4 doesn't work correctely) but now AsimCDFS doesn't work anymore.

What I did before was that I mounted CD3: (AsimCDFS) in parallel to CD0: to have the file comments displayed on DVD's because the CDFS which is supplied with MorphOS shows the file comments only on Data CD's! (I had tried CD's burned from both program's, FryingPan and MakeCD, MorphOS CDFS show's the file comments but only on CD's and not on DVD's).

I very much use/need this feature and wonder if there would be a possibility to have this included/added to the MorphOS CDFS?

Another problem with MorphOS CDFS is that I bought some commercial Image CD's (from a stockimages DB) and on those CD's are 2 files which have excately the same name, one of the 2 is the small preview image and the other one is the real hires image. Whatever I select it is not possible to copy or open the real hires image when using MorphOS's CDFS. When selecting the 2 files on Ambient and trying to copy them to the HD or Ram, it crashes the computer. Here also I had to use AsimCDFS and I'm stuck now. Perhaps this also could be solved?

For a better understanding I included some screengrabs which show the problems.

With best regards and merry xmas to all :)

Christoph

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It's already there, it's just that the one in 1.4.x has some issues .. and it's time to fess up, turns out I was wrong, the 1.4.x cdfs does indeed mount joliet instead of rockridge if both are present, this was fixed quite some time ago (and will be in the next major release), so I didn't think this was really the issue, turns out it was, sorry for the trouble ppl. :P

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Right, I've come across this once myself, it's extremely annoying, but unfortunately also quite tricky to fix .. I can't give you an ETA on this one, sorry. :P

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That's weird, but does it only happen with Ambient?

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I guess they need to be approved by a moderator first?


- CISC

CISC wrote:

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That's weird, but does it only happen with Ambient?



This seems to happen only with Ambient, as I tried to copy via Shell and it copied (but only the small image).
(see attacged shell log)

Regards

Christoph