Tiger on MOL
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    winterhunter
    Posts: 204 from 2005/10/13
    From: PACA, France
    Dear all,

    I have tried to install MacOS X Tiger on my pegII using MOL, but the DVD is not recognized...

    So I've tried to mount the DVD under linux, or open it in windows, and nobody recognizes the damned thing. As if the FS on the DVD was propietary or something....

    Any ideas?
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    stormlord
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/10
    From: Czech Republic
    Hello, installation of Tiger requires patched MOL... It can be downloaded from http://dev.gentoo.org/~josejx/ Please PM me, if you will need help...
    StormLord
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    I could access the Tiger DVD under PegXMac, and i could start the installation process. Unfortunately Tiger's installation tells that my HD partition is not in the first 8 mb of the drive which is wrong. Panther works fine though.

    I heard of a german guy that was able to install Tiger with the last PegXMac but he never answered my mails.
  • »12.12.05 - 08:56
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    stormlord
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/10
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    I have Tiger installed... Works fine, i can even use cd burner :-) But it requires patched MOL...
    StormLord
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24
    From: Hamburg/Germany
    How is the performance compared to 10.3.9???
    Is it faster, slower, the same???
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  • »12.12.05 - 10:35
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    stormlord
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/10
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    I didn't notice any slowdown compared to 10.3.9... But MOL still lacks acceleration of graphics, so there is no support for openGL and of course many nice effects are not available...

    StormLord
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    winterhunter
    Posts: 204 from 2005/10/13
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    Do I assume that this is a faulty DVD??? Because I can't mount it! And MOL (startmol -X --cdboot) says that there is NO bootable media.
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    stormlord
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/10
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    It looks like it is faulty. Did you tried it under OSX?
    StormLord
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi!

    In case s.o. is interested:
    I'm going to finish "molk" (with latest gentoo-mol) & 2 nice
    live-cds before xmas...
    You'll find them on pegasos.org soon :)

    cheers
    frostwork
  • »13.12.05 - 10:16
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Frostwork

    You are my hero :-o

    Are you going to compile the OSX Tiger patches into the Gentoo live cd? Also, will you be using ALSA or OSS for sound? One more thing will USB work? Thanks in advance

    magnetic

    PS What ever happened to your Freevo/Mythv live CD?
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24
    From: Hamburg/Germany
    Cool Frotwork.
    And what about the Freevo-live CD???
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  • »13.12.05 - 20:45
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    winterhunter
    Posts: 204 from 2005/10/13
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    Quote:


    stormlord wrote:
    It looks like it is faulty. Did you tried it under OSX?
    StormLord


    No, the whole point of installing Tiger was getting OSX installled in my computer. But, for the DVD to be bootable, they must stick to UDF standards (and the DVD I have is definitively NOT udf).
  • »14.12.05 - 07:42
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    stormlord
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/10
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    I am not sure it is in UDF format... I can check it when i come home from work...
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi!

    MOLK will have cdrws, usb, alsa etc enabled.

    Only issue left is networking.
    The nice guy hawe helped me a lot with trying to get network to work,
    but it isn't completely ready yet...
    A later update (hopefully with your help, as I'm lame with network-stuff)
    will hopefully solve this last prob....

    btw is it possible that latest gentoo-mol doesn't support Classic?

    Regarding freevo-live:

    Yes, this is one of the 2 live-cds I mentioned above :)
    I worked hard on it, but some setting will have to be set by you
    manually (tv is set to pal/germany f.e)

    enabled are:

    - tv-in/out
    - tv-recording
    - movie-player
    - music-player
    - picture-viewer
    - several emulators like mame, mess....
    - hd-installer

    The 2nd cd is aros-live :)

    I do my best to finish them till friday & send them to gunne (pegasos.org) via snailmail for upload...

    cheers
    frostwork


    EDIT:

    @magnetic:

    Which gentoo-live cd are you talking about?
    (molk is only a kernel,a mini-squash and a directory with
    config-files) They need to be copied to the boot-partition
    (has to be 1st partition on 1st hd in this release)


    [ Edited by Frostwork on 2005/12/14 20:05 ]
  • »14.12.05 - 11:02
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    kriz
    Posts: 309 from 2005/10/18
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    Very good work Frostwork!! Very nice cd`s you make..

    Greetings.
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    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24
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    That is great Frostwork can't wait till the Freevo-live CD is out.
    Give that man a Medal for his work!!!
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    winterhunter
    Posts: 204 from 2005/10/13
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    @Frostwork:
    Sounds great! I will be waiting (impatiently) for the upload to
    appear!
  • »14.12.05 - 17:30
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    Posts: 18 from 2005/1/27
    From: Spain
    Hello: Talking about installing Tiger ... I would be delighted if I could just install Panther. I never could. The cd boots OK under MOL but I always get the message that the system can not be installed in the target disc. Can anyone tell me what's wrong?. I tried to install it in hdb4 (I have linux in the other partitions). By the way, Jaguar installed OK in that same disc. Thanks for you sure help.
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    stormlord
    Posts: 13 from 2004/2/10
    From: Czech Republic
    Hello, what was the size and filesystem of that partition?
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    Posts: 18 from 2005/1/27
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    @stormlord

    It's 16GB
  • »15.12.05 - 08:06
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    Sorry, I forgot about the filesystem. At the moment it's HFS+ (OS 10.2 is installed in the partition)
  • »15.12.05 - 08:11
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi!

    1st of all sorry for using this thread to announce my stuff!
    (but at least it's partitcularly mol-related... )

    2nd thx for nice feedback
    3rd the cds are on the way to gunne :)
    4th I started a "wink" kernel (=qemu-kernel) today &
    it already works nice with several systems (including Knoppix-LiveDVD ;) )
    With the mighty qemu "loadvm" option, it's possible to make the
    pegasos the fastest win "booting" machine of the world ;)

    Hehe!

    cheers
    frostwork
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Frostwork

    Cant w8t for your new cds. I was referring to making sure you compile the Freevo Gentoo cd with the support for Altivec which is needed for proper usage in a DV setting imo.

    What is the prob with networking? I've had MOL installed on my 2.6.x kernel with Debian from packages and use DHCP no problem...

    @the user with Panther probs. . weird, Panther works great here and it should just install right over Jaguar..

    magnetic
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    new PegXMac 1.4.4 version is out

    here's the changelog :

    MOL Changelog

    mol-0.9.71_pre6 - 2005-12-01 Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>
    * Removed the 2.6.15 fix, it's fixed upstream now
    * Included typo fix in src/netdriver/Makefile.26 from Mattias Nissler
    mol-0.9.71_pre5 - 2005-11-27 Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>
    * Updated mods.mkext with OSX 10.2 compatible version
    * Fixed building with 2.6.15
    * Included some more debian patches
    * Included build fixes for 2.4 from Hans-Martin Mosner
    mol-0.9.71_pre4 - 2005-10-12 Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>
    * Big filesystem fix is applied in build system instead of the ebuild
    * Tiger nvram fix is applied in the build system instead of the ebuild
    * Fix for improper binutils handling of some ASM (thanks Bin Zhang)
    * Fixed versions and a few minor typos
    mol-0.9.71_pre3 - 2005-10-12 Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>
    * Tiger Acceleration fix by adding NW compatible NVRAM image
    * GCC4 compile fixes
    mol-0.9.71_pre2 - 2005-10-12 Joseph Jezak <josejx@gentoo.org>
    * Based on MOL BK development pull
    * Build fix for 2.6.9
    * Build fix for 2.6.10
    * Build fix for 2.6.12
    * Scheduler Fixes (fixes lag in newer kernels)
    * .tmp_offset patch fixes sandbox issues on Gentoo
    * Tiger support (Mattias Nissler's patch)
    * PCI Proxy support
    * MOL module loading name fix
    * Tiger 8GB Disk install patch
    * 96MB BootX fix
    * XSHM fix
    * Sheep building typo fixed
    * Probably other minor things

    so Tiger is supposed to work on it.
  • »16.12.05 - 07:40
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    Frostwork
    Posts: 302 from 2003/4/18
    Hi!

    @SoundSquare

    It's not my intension to make molk be concurrent to PegXMac
    (just in case s.o. wonders).
    I don't have it, but I'm sure it's far more professional created than molk
    & surely worth its money...

    @magnetic:

    I think everything on freevo-live is compiled with altivec-flags...
    No idea if dv will work (at least from live-cd, but should/could be "enableable" (is this an english word? :) ) on installed system...

    hawe helped a lot with networking, as i don't have one setup at home
    atm the linux & other machines seem to be pingable from the Mac-side,
    but you can't get out...
    The molk-squash is very mini, the kernel-inbuild initrd is the
    linux-system & the molk-squash is added as /usr/local/
    (as of about 4MB-limit of the kernel).
    Very likely s.th. is simply missing in there, but I've no clue what it could be...)


    Alltogether there will probably come up several problems with
    all 3 releases, but hey, I'm no magician & still learning &
    with help everything can be updated ;)

    have a nice evening!

    frostwork
  • »16.12.05 - 16:53
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