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  • Caterpillar
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    Mitya
    Posts: 33 from 2004/5/13
    From: Enschede
    Is there a way to get the new TinyGl library

    or can they release it now , so that we can play a lot of more games like Cube !

    make a deal from this
  • »26.06.04 - 11:00
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    At this point you should know MorphOS Developer Team politics: they will release updates only togheter with new MorphOS versions. So in order to have the new tinyGL library and the new graphic drivers (needed to use the new GL software like cube and others..) you will have to wait MOS1.5.
    You like this? You don't like this? You think it is an intelligent tactic? You think it's stupid? Everything you think unfortunately will not change this mechanism :-(
    Relax your soul and accept it!

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    tokai
    Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25
    From: binaryriot
    as it's written on sdl.innodea.hu, you just have to write a small mail to kiero for getting latest tinygl.library which will work with mos1.4.x and a voodoo grafic card.
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    Butterfly
    Posts: 65 from 2003/2/10
    From: France (Agen 47)
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    JKD
    Posts: 456 from 2003/4/4
    From: South of heaven
    It might be written there but when I asked for it, I was told it wasn't for the public until MOS1.5!!

    :-?
  • »26.06.04 - 15:35
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 261 from 2003/3/13
    From: Rotterdam, the...
    > Kiero, the Megahero !!!!

    YES!
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Paochi
    Posts: 136 from 2004/3/23
    From: Italy
    Quote:


    tokai wrote:
    as it's written on sdl.innodea.hu, you just have to write a small mail to kiero for getting latest tinygl.library which will work with mos1.4.x and a voodoo grafic card.



    No TOkai.
    I wrote an email to Kiero and also talked with him on #morphos channel and the answer was:
    it we'll be avaiable only with Mos1.5
    The same is applied for Louise.
    We have to wait.
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  • »26.06.04 - 18:15
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  • MorphOS Developer
    kiero
    Posts: 129 from 2003/2/28
    The lib is available now, but only for developers who want to use it. Louise has latest lib and some other people. But due to lack of new/fixed voodoo driver some of its features can't be used or are causing trouble, that's why it's not public for "normal" users. You have to live with it, sorry.

    // Michal 'kiero' Wozniak
  • »26.06.04 - 19:55
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  • Caterpillar
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    Mitya
    Posts: 33 from 2004/5/13
    From: Enschede
    so far as i see now ,i can only wait , pitty but there is nothing to do about it , so i will wait till Morphos 1.5
  • »26.06.04 - 22:36
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 2 from 2004/7/20
    From: Kajaani, Finland
    Will there be ATI Radeon support for TinyGL?
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  • »28.07.04 - 08:24
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    @ zdax
    Yes,
    this is the major reason why we all here are wayting for the new TinyGL and the new gfx drivers.
    In everycase do not be happy too early: the only Radeons supported will be the 7000, 7200, 7500 and today you can buy only the first one of these.

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  • Cocoon
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    ple3003
    Posts: 41 from 2003/4/7
    From: Åre - Sweden
    Why is that?
    The 8500 has to be in far more Pegasos configs than the 7xxx series...
    Stupid if you ask me. The 8500 is by the way almost identical to the 7xxx, so it shouldn't be that hard to write a driver for it....
    I eat people like you for breakfast ;-)
  • »28.07.04 - 11:15
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  • Leo
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
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    Stupid if you ask me. The 8500 is by the way almost identical to the 7xxx, so it shouldn't be that hard to write a driver for it....


    8500 is far better than 7x00 !
    And I believe a lot of things are different when compared with the 7x00.

    Leo.
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  • »28.07.04 - 12:07
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    I thought there will be support for RV100, RV200 (and Rv250) which means all 7000, 7200, 7500, 8500, (9000) and 9100 cards?
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  • »28.07.04 - 12:07
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    Miky060
    Posts: 694 from 2003/2/24
    From: ITALY
    as you can see dholm words comfirm what I sayd: 3D drivers only for the old 7xxx serie.

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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:


    Miky060 wrote:
    as you can see dholm words comfirm what I sayd: 3D drivers only for the old 7xxx serie.


    Well, if only for RV100 then it' ll be only for 7000 and 7200. The 7500 uses the same chip as the 8500 and 9100 does, namely the R(V)200. The R(V)200 is IIRC quite similar to the R(V)100.
    The RV250 might be different, therefore I put it into brackets. But If my brain doesn't fool me too much it's been stated somewhere that there is 3d support for other ATI's than only the 7000 and 7200 (iirc for the R(V)200 series).
    Difference between 7500 and 8500 and 9100 is that the 7500 uses an RV200 and the latter both are using R200 chips which include additional Pixelshaders.


    [ Edited by Zylesea on 2004/7/28 15:45 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    artickfox
    Posts: 101 from 2004/4/17
    Meanwhile maybe is better try Linux PPC version for 3d stuff... O.o
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    antime
    Posts: 10 from 2004/7/30
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    dholm wrote:
    Will you provide the MOS team with hardware docs and sample drivers for these chipsets? Afaik ATI won't.

    AFAIK they will provide information for R100- and R200-based chips (but you have to ask for them). The open-source DRI Radeon driver supports 3D acceleration for R200-based chips.

    [ Edited by antime on 2004/7/30 15:45 ]
  • »30.07.04 - 12:43
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