10 steps installation: MiamiDeluxe 1.x
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    tokai
    Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25
    From: binaryriot
    Often new peg user have the problem "how to install Miami". The Installer does not work, because it wants a MUI: assign. For all these people I wrote this short instruction how to setup the thing manually.

    Disclaimer: blablabla... you know.. I cannot be responsible if something goes wrong: it's your risk. :-D


    Installing MiamiDeluxe in 10 steps

    You'll need:

    MiamiDx10cmain.lha (1276409 bytes) (Link)
    MiamiDx10c-MUI.lha (92374) (Link)


    You have to do:

    1. extract both archives to Ram Disk:

    lha x MiamiDx10cmain.lha ram:

    and

    lha x MiamiDx10c-MUI.lha ram:

    When everything is done you should have a "MiamiDx10_Install" directory in Ram Disk.



    2. Avoid the Install script. It's evil and will not work. Use right click and "View as -> All Files" to see the hidden directories "main" and "MUI".



    3. Move all files from the "MUI" directory to the "Libs" directory inside the "main" directory.

    MUI/MUI.MiamiToolsGui -> main/libs/MUI.MiamiToolsGui
    MUI/MUI.MiamiDxGui -> main/libs/MUI.MiamiDxGui



    4. add an icon to the main Directory:

    copy ENV:sys/def_drawer.info RAM:MiamiDx10_Install/main.info



    5. copy the "main" directory to your harddisk and rename it to "Miami".



    6. now delete the "MiamiDx10_Install" directory in RAM, we don't need it anymore.



    7. Go the the new Miami directory on your harddisk, you should find a hidden icon sub drawer here. Copy one of the MiamiDx icons to your Miami binary:

    Say... the directory is on work:Miami/ and you want the NewIcon then you would enter into Shell:

    > cd work:miami
    > copy icons/NewIcons/MiamiDx.info to MiamiDx.info

    The icon should now appear in the main directory, don't forget to set higher stack (right click on the icon and choose "Information" and then enter into the Stack string gadget a high enough value. 65536 is a good value, IMHO.)



    8. open a shell (If you don't already have it open ;-) ) and enter:

    setenv SAVE Miami/GUI MUI



    9. add following line to your s:user-startup

    Assign MIAMI: Work:Miami

    (replace "Work:Miami" whith the correct path to your Miami installation ofcourse ;-) )

    If you don't have an editor then you can enter:

    echo "Assign MIAMI: Work:Miami" >>s:user-startup

    into shell, this will also add the line to your user-startup. But make sure you enter that line like shown above (just replace the path to your Miami installation).



    10. Reboot _or_ enter into shell:

    Assign MIAMI: Work:Miami

    Now you can start Miami and enjoy configuring your network! :-)




    Hope this 10 steps can help some new Pegasos users out there! :-)

    regards,
    tokai

    btw: it's not only about Miami installion also about showing how you can install almost every program w/o an install script.. It's not difficult and just needs some practise with shell, etc. Try to get used to it and your installation will be much more professional in the end and will have a lot less problems (sometimes Installer scripts install older libraries etc., this you can avoid by installing manually).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Robin
    Posts: 741 from 2003/2/24
    10 steps is a little much I make it two ;)

    1) Load the installer script after extracting and remove the lines:

    (if (not (= 0 (BITAND #gui-options 3))) (
    (if (not (exists "MUI:Libs/muimaster.library" (noreq)))
    (abort "You need to install MUI 3.8 before you can install GUI "
    "modules for MiamiDx.")
    )
    (if (< (/ (getversion "MUI:Libs/muimaster.library") 65536) 18)
    (abort "Your installed MUI version is too old for MiamiDx. "
    "Please upgrade to MUI 3.8 or higher before installing MiamiDx."
    )
    )
    ))

    2. Then you can simply use the installer.

    ;-)

    [ Edited by Robin on 2004/9/4 16:17 ]
  • »09.04.04 - 17:38
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    Give me a few days, and I'll write some kind of shell-script for doing it. (a little busy ATM)
    :idea:Targhan

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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Tokai

    Thanks alot for this. Your support for the community is amazing...

    magnetic

    BTW where is Euphoria :-P
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    cecilia
    Posts: 459 from 2003/8/30
    From: universe, milk...
    very cool, tokai!
    I use Dopus MAgellan to help me copy/install files. but then i'm just lazy!
    :pint:
    it is very useful to compare versions and sizes and dates of files (when, for example checking on libs).

    oh, yeah, i've been horribly busy but i'll try to get a few more "palettes" sent your way....
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    It helped me out!!! Thanks to you I am now posting with my Peg, MiamiDx and Ibrowse!!! Your the man!

    And oh I cheated and used Dopus 4 myself! I hate the shell, even hated it on the amiga too!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    DJBase
    Posts: 745 from 2003/4/6
    From: Germany
    Quote:

    Let me repeat this in an extra post:

    Use the installer when you want a broken MorphOS installation!



    Works here. Just edit some parts in the script.
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    Oh yeah, <looks innocent> I had nothing to do with it.. yeah... that's the ticket! It was donated by an unnamed source! I wouldn't spend an hour or so whittling away at a shell-based installer.. no.. I would never do that </innocent>...

    :lol:
    :idea:Targhan

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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    tokai
    Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25
    From: binaryriot
    DJ, you didn't got my point. Maybe the Miami script will work after the fix, but how often it happens that some badly written Installer script overwrites some newer library version or does something other more worse.

    As a novice user you don't notice that and in the end you're wondering why everything crashes or some programs stopped to work.

    The only thing which will help is to avoid installer scripts and install stuff manually, and of course like cecila also wrote: compare versions, filedates etc.. You can only be sure to have a good installation when you 100% know what was installed...

    this of course does not work when you blindly trust some installer scripts.

    And it's not just a MorphOS problem... it's a problem of every OS. But the good thing is that you cannot install most programs under e.g. Windows manually, so you have here a big advantage in MorphOS/AmigaOS.

    I can only recommend: Don't be lazy!

    (and when you really think you cannot install a program w/o install script then at least use "Expert" mode and enable log-file.)

    regards,
    tokai
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Elektro
    Posts: 202 from 2004/2/3
    To me the problem is not to install MiamiDX but configure it!!! :-(
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Wishmaster
    Posts: 342 from 2003/6/29
    I thought the Installer does not overwrite newer versions ?
    If a programmer is too stupid to write a working installer script the program he has written, must be crap, too.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    jdryyz
    Posts: 127 from 2004/4/9
    From: Torrance, CA USA
    Where does one obtain that nice 32-bit color Miami icon for MorphOS?
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    Brumiga
    Posts: 248 from 2004/4/3
    From: France
    hello guys,

    jdryyz, have a look at OcineL'archive, the icon is inside.

    i have just copied Miami and MiamiDx drawers from my amiga hard drive connected to a partition of my choice, create the assign and that's all. but MiamiDx does not want to connect with a working setting on the amiga. it says that it cannot access the hardware and that the serial port is occupied. can somebody help me ?

    Brumiga
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    Your going to need to tell MiamiDX to use the Pegasos ethernet driver now. I dont know about the serial port. I've heard it doesnt work well. The Internal Ethernet is called Rhine. I think its viarhine.device but looks in morphos/devs to be sure. The port is the one over the firewite ports in back. The best way to configure it is to use the miamiconfig app. It set mine up perfectly using DHCP when connected to my router.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 127 from 2004/4/9
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    Thanks. Can you send me a link? I searched on this site, aminet and even externally using google and came up dry.


    Quote:

    jdryyz, have a look at OcineL'archive, the icon is inside.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 127 from 2004/4/9
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    Ahh! Thanks. I will look there.

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    ocinels icon set is only available on beta2 ftp.
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    Phantom
    Posts: 381 from 2004/9/7
    Ok I installed Miami Deluxe 1.0c, but does anybody knows how to configure it so I can use a USB Modem?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    tokai
    Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25
    From: binaryriot
    you configure it for serial connection and then you choose as external serial.device:

    usbmodem.device

    (maybe serialpl2303.device could work too, dunno)

    Then you only need to pray that it will work and your modem does not need some propritary drivers.

    Else: buy a router</laire> :-)

    regards,
    tokai
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    ChatDEau
    Posts: 248 from 2003/4/4
    From: MONTREAL, Quebec
    @tokai & all

    Are there any USB modems reported to work at all with MOS?

    I find it quite crazy to use USB modems tho, as it's limiting bandwidth. But I guess if this is someone's only solution, it's better than nothing.

    Fred

    [EDIT]
    Note that this is mainly based on personnal experience when I was working at an ISP. I'm no USB expert.

    Also, I think Ethernet is much more reliable and gives you more options to differently set your home network, say with a router.
    [/EDIT]


    [ Edited by ChatDEau on 2004/10/18 17:35 ]
  • »18.10.04 - 20:10
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