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I've figured out that this window always appears if YT-Videos are embedded....
A problem with german-catalog-file?

Wayfarer can't handle the Webinterface from Fritzbox 7590.
i only reach the first page with the password and user input. After i try to input the username Wayfarer freeze.

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My Fritz! Box 7590 (LAN connected with iMac G5) is running smoothly with Wayfarer 1.11.
No access problem and I just updated Fritz!OS to version 07.21.

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Did you send a bugreport for that? Unless I have a lot, there's little I can do.

Maybe something recent - Perceverance?

The very first video frame rendered somewhat correctly. Still a long way to go before this is usable. Mind that the playback is via a Media Source enabled player. MS has forced me to refactor most of the code I've already had. Basically on sites like YT you get chunks of data sent in by JavaScript, separately for video and audio and so you've got to run two decoding pipelines at once. The upside is that this enables higher qualities on YT. The downside is that the CPU requirements for playback are higher than with the regular route where you get an URL to a video file and handle it as you wish.

[ Edited by jacadcaps 01.03.2021 - 14:26 ]

Woohoo! Great progress and awesome music :)

Impressive. Would it still be possible to include an option to play the vids like OWB does, making it possible to replay vids without much CPU overhead (in OWB you can extract the direct vid url)?

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Nice to see you've achieved some real progress with video now. I assumed there were multiple data streams for YT, and probably other web video thesedays, which is a pain.

It is ... probably, going to compromise smooth playback, with our limited CPU capabilities - what % of the CPU was tied up on running the videos, that's if whatever hardware you tested it on was MorphOS capable hardware, and not QEMU, or if that's the case it's likely % on real MOS PPC hardware?

Nonetheless, this is good news, and great that you have managed to spend a little more time on Wayfarer improvements recently.

I'm testing on a 2.3GHZ G5. There is a chance that 720p will have acceptable performance (though that means disabling vp9 support since that one is too heavy, apparently). No chances for 1080p though - just decoding video frames uses up significantly more time than a frame should be displayed for, so...

We need faster CPU’s. There is no way around that fact.

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Well, whatever modern platform you are watching videos on, it likely does so via hardware decoding. Your CPU doesn't necessarily need to be fast (take a RaspberryPi for example).

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Any chance for that on MorphOS?

Afaik that requires R600 or newer cards. Anyway, that wouldn't work for the majority of users (since most of our machines have no PCIe slots), so what'd be the point?

> We need faster CPU’s. There is no way around that fact.

Another fact: There's a certain OS that has been shown doing realtime 4k video decoding (using 3rd party software) on a Polaris/GCN4 graphics card put into a mainboard built around a decade-old embedded-class CPU in turn built around a pair of crippled, 1½-decade-old embedded-class CPU cores (and one of them completely idling at that) ;-)

> Afaik that requires R600 or newer cards. [...] that wouldn't work for the
> majority of users (since most of our machines have no PCIe slots)

AGP cards went up to R700, and PCI cards up to R800 even :-)

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I still can't solder one onto my PowerBook, so...

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You also cannot solder a 2,7 GHz G5 into it, so anyway it's kinda useless when it comes to YouTube video playback, right?

So, logicboard based GFX architecture is going to cripple most Apple systems, like MacMinis, PowerBooks from having working, fluid video within Wayfarer, if I understand you correctly, but will there be an option to save the video file as an .mp4 or such like on the majority of systems?

I'm not so hopeful about that, but that's what I used to do mainly with my MacMini for YouTube videos, but from what you've said - as the video and audio are split into "snippets" and re-assembled "on-the-fly" through the browser's internal capabilities I'm thinking that any script is going to be a non-starter, but I could be wrong . . . go on . . . tell me if it's possible, I can take it!

Would there be a way to implement a lower resolution, less CPU intensive way of handling video from most websites that would still allow MorphOS users to view such content, with just a MacMini or PowerBook, with the GFX limitations they are constrained by?

> I still can't solder one onto my PowerBook, so...

But you could put one into your "2.3GHZ G5", no? :-)

> So, logicboard based GFX architecture is going to cripple
> most Apple systems, like MacMinis, PowerBooks from having
> working, fluid video within Wayfarer, if I understand you correctly

Without UVD support, there is (apart from potential differences in CPU performance) no less crippling with video on the PowerMacs even with more modern graphics cards put into them.

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Firstly great work again, you don't know how pleased I am to see this progress.

I watch 720p YT on my G5 Quad using OWB at the moment and as long as I let it buffer for a bit at the beginning it handles it fine using the full screen script.

Is what you are trying to achieve with Wayfarer radically different to this?

As for hardware acceleration, if its a option for us with PCIe machines I'd welcome it, even if I have to use a different version on my Powerbook G4 and MacMini.

Ok, is there still room for improvement for Radeon 9x00 class graphics cards? I think these one are the most common cards used in MorphOS systems. Maybe for 9600/9800, as used in G5s or Powerbooks?

You are the man jacadcaps! Thanks so much for this browser.

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There's room for improvement vs OWB, for sure. I'm hoping I'd be able to use overlay in windowed mode.