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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    No good news to report, so I might as well get down to a status report.

    I don't normally relay personal emails in part or whole (AmigaDave made it abundantly clear that this is bad form), but this statement from SteveE617 pretty much sums it up:

    "Well, Eric got back and he's turning around and heading back out again. This project may not come to fruition. Eric's schedule is going to be very busy this summer and fall with work related travel.

    Let me know what you think...
    "

    So, I'm just going to pay my car insurance and some ebay invoices and the I will check into a local hospital.

    Next week, I'll look into whether or not I want to tackle this myself (or another open office type package), and whether or not I am going to need additional help.

    Hey, I certainly have the computers with three G4 Power macs and bids out on a fourth.

    Again, re-stating something I have mentioned too often, does anyone need development hardware?

    [ Edited by Jim 10.05.2013 - 13:59 ]
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  • »09.05.13 - 12:49
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Apparently my developer has forsaken this project as he was hoping to get to work on it sooner than circumstances have allowed.
    After consideration, I've decided that it would make sense to consider continuing with this project.
    In that regard, I'd also like to solicit developers interested in working on an AROS port as well.
    Further, rather than reinvent the wheel, does anyone know how is working on the OS4 port?

    Edit - Thomas Frieden. nix the idea of cooperation on that front.

    [ Edited by Jim 09.05.2013 - 23:10 ]
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  • »09.05.13 - 19:06
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
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    Jim
    I hope you get better and all goes well! Dont put it off anymore, i've done that before and regreted it. I did it with my wisdom teeth and lost 2 others because i waited so long. The good news is the sooner you get it done the sooner its done!  :-D
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Thanks magnetic,
    I know putting things off isn't a good idea.
    I was hoping to get Eric to post an outline of his goals for a proposed bounty.
    Instead its been dumped in my lap.
    I need to pay for my car insurance and Ebay purchases today then I will check in.
    As to Libre Office, well I've been looking for a project that would help me become more familiar with MUI, so maybe this is a blessing in disguise.
    And as I need help, you can bet I will ask for it (but not without trying to figure it out on my own first).
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  • »10.05.13 - 09:58
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    Edit - duplicate post.
    Sorry.

    [ Edited by Jim 10.05.2013 - 14:01 ]
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    boot_wb
    Posts: 874 from 2007/4/9
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    Jim,

    If Eric is still interested in working on Libre Office around work, but is committed to travelling with work, doesn't that suggest a Powerbook would be the perfect dev machine for him?
    Just throwing it out there, as he may just be not interested in the project anymore, but it's nice to have a hobby you can take with you when travelling with work.

    If he IS interested in this approach, PM me and we'll thrash out getting him a Powerbook within the next 2 weeks*. That £100 I was going to throw at the bounty could be used to get a Powerbook ASAP.
    If he's Europe-based, I can set it up and ship it out from here (UK) - I have the time, and it'll be quicker & cheaper.

    PS - Learning MUI by tackling a port of Libre Office sounds like mental suicide. ;-)

    * ie 10 June 2013, not "two more weeks". :-D

    [ Edited by boot_wb 25.05.2013 - 11:25 ]
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    Jim,
    Quote:

    Further, rather than reinvent the wheel, does anyone know how is working on the OS4 port?

    Edit - Thomas Frieden. nix the idea of cooperation on that front.


    I believe the port effort is commissioned by A-Eon, so it would be worth contacting Trevor (who holds the reins) as the relevant person to make such a decision. He is very friendly towards MorphOS development, so may be inclined to co-operate. Furthermore, A-Eon has always wanted to foster co-operation between camps, so it could be the perfect showcase project for them to do just that (worth pushing this idea in any speculative e-mail).

    Thomas Frieden is also working with for A-Eon (or as an independent subcontractor for A-Eon) on this so may be much more approachable than if he was wearing his Hyperion hat.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    How about offering an additional bounty for a MOS port of their work?
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Usually, a developer agrees to a sets of goals and to accept a specified amount once those goals are reached.

    And there is a general misperception here that development with the SDK has to be done on a MorphOS system.
    As horrible as I find to say it, I'm finding that using Cygwin under Windows makes a slightly better development system.
    Other seem to prefer Linux as a development platform.

    Sure, it helps to have a MorphOS system to run the resulting code on.
    But compiling and other tools work faster on a 4 GHz multi-core system then they do on my 1.33 GHz Power mac


    [ Edited by Jim 25.05.2013 - 14:16 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12403 from 2003/5/22
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    > If he's Europe-based, I can set it up and ship it out from here (UK)

    I think Eric and SteveE617 live near each other, and SteveE617 seems to be in Oklahoma.

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    > there is a general misperception here that development with the SDK has to be
    > done on a MorphOS system.

    I'm sure that most developers here are aware of the concept of cross compilation. It's just that testing and debugging the compiled binary is much more convenient with the target system at hand.

    > Sure, it helps to have a MorphOS system to run the resulting code on.

    Exactly.
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    SteveE617
    Posts: 80 from 2013/1/26
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    Eric and I work together. Eric was wanting to get started on this when things were slow at work and home. His job requires him to travel. We discussed getting back on the project, but it now looks like it will be later on this year.

    If the G5 version is ever released, which I though it was going to be in the March/April timeframe, I have three G5's sitting here. I can provide one of the G5's to him for development.

    [ Edited by SteveE617 25.05.2013 - 18:31 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12403 from 2003/5/22
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    > We discussed getting back on the project, but it now looks like it will be
    > later on this year.

    Did anything happen with this, now that "this year" has turned into "past year"?

    > If the G5 version is ever released, [...] I can provide one of the G5's to him
    > for development.

    Actually, G5 support was released 2 days after you wrote this ;-)
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  • Jim
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    As the newer releases of Libre Office are less modular than older releases, it is increasingly harder to port this monolithic beast.
    I had one component of an older release working, but the newer versions pull this component back into the main body of the program.
    Steve and Eric have my best wishes on this, but its a pretty large task.
    Frankly, I will settle for simpler editors.
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