Ambient usage - features
  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    rms
    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    @ Kamul

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    Isn't it a too small stack problem?



    Perhaps but where has this to be changed? I use in Ambient settings Command Line Settings a Stacksize of 262144. In fact this is excactely the same I use in Magellan for CLI Launching.

    Ghostscript needs as noted on Whoosh's webpage 150000

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    Christoph
  • »11.12.07 - 11:03
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Kamul
    Posts: 121 from 2004/6/9
    From: Poland, Katowice
    Well, if you set so big stack size in Ambient prefs and the problem
    still exists, there are two posiblilieties. Stack has nothing to do
    with your problem, or Ambient stack size prefs hasn't influence to
    the GS process. You can try to use a scripts like this one:

    .key file
    .bra {
    .ket }

    stack 2000000
    Programy:Teksty/GhostScript/init
    GS854:bin/gs -sDEVICE=whoosh24 -dNOPAUSE -r100 {file}

    From time I wrote it, my problems with stack have gone.
    In mimetypes prefs you should put something like this:

    Execute Programy:Teksty/GhostScript/GS_View %sp

    I created similar script for printing and for
    converting GS to f.ex. *.pcx.

    Good luck! :)
  • »12.12.07 - 19:20
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  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    Hi all,

    I have a small problem here, when dragging a drawer over another drawer one can't see that this other drawer is the selected one.

    If you have a look at the screengrab, I selected 4 drawers and wanted to release them on the "DB" drawer but the "DB" drawer does not change the color.

    Does anyone else have this? or is there a solution?

    Regards

    Christoph
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    @ fab:

    Is it possible to add a familly feature like on MacOS?
    I'm speaking about th epossibility to choose a color for some files?
    This feature is realy very very usefull to sort medias.
  • »03.01.08 - 16:22
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  • Fab
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    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    I guess it would be doable, although it can be a bit confusing visually imo. The other problem is how that kind of information should be stored. I mean, on macos, if you move a marked file to another place, is it still marked? If it is, it wouldn't be that trivial to implement.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    Yes, on Mac OS the "color" of a file is one of its attributes, like the filename. It is preserved when moving, copying, etc.
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  • Fab
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    Yeah, it makes much more sense having it as a file attribute, which means it's just not doable "properly" in ambient then (if it had to be done, it would be in DOS).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    serge
    Posts: 725 from 2003/2/20
    Quote:


    Fab wrote:
    Yeah, it makes much more sense having it as a file attribute, which means it's just not doable "properly" in ambient then (if it had to be done, it would be in DOS).


    Ok, I understand the situation.
    So, on this case, if this feature have to be asked to the people working on DOS, which guy(s) should I contact to ask them this feature please?

    so, if this feature is implemented on DOS, then it should be easy to use it on Ambient, is'nt it?

    PS: Is it stupid to stor it on icon file like a tooltype?

    thank you very much.

    [ Edited by serge on 2008/1/4 23:51 ]
  • »04.01.08 - 21:50
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  • Fab
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    Posts: 1331 from 2003/6/16
    It could be stored in an icon, but not every file has an icon. And i don't think you would want to create an icon for each marked file (even if it's handled automatically).

    It would have to be added in DOS, but it also needs to be supported by the underlying filesystems. The existing DOS API would have to handle this new attribute and so on...
    All this is possible, but you can see that extending these system structures has quite heavy consequences. Now, if you really want this added, you can try to convince piru. :)
  • »04.01.08 - 23:01
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    Hi all,

    I use latest Ambient from 21.12.2007.

    Soemtimes but not alsways when I run e.g. FXPaint and YAM then YAM's appicon gets duplicated several times and is left, even after quitting YAM, on Ambient.

    I have to reset to get rid of this "left there" appicon.

    Does anyone else have this?

    Regards

    Christoph
  • »11.01.08 - 13:44
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    itix
    Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24
    From: Finland
    Quote:


    It could be stored in an icon, but not every file has an icon. And i don't think you would want to create an icon for each marked file (even if it's handled automatically).



    Iconless files could use the default setting... i.e. setting could be that icon is displayed as ghosted or tinted in specified color. Color could be set only for files with real icon which at least in icon view makes sense.
    1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
  • »12.01.08 - 12:37
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  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    @ Fab

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    Also when creating a new drawer would it be possible to have the string empty instead of "Unnamed" because it has to be deleted nearly everytime before entering the real new name for the drawer.


    The best way to conciliate both ideas is to mark the "unnamed" text.



    It's really great to see that this function is already implemented in the latest nightly build. Thank you!

    Regards

    Christoph
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    GK_LKA
    Posts: 481 from 2004/3/28
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    Quote:

    Iconless files could use the default setting... i.e. setting could be that icon is displayed as ghosted or tinted in specified color. Color could be set only for files with real icon which at least in icon view makes sense.


    Yes, I agree with you. It is more than enough if file colors would appear only in Ambient and ASL requesters, and I think this two is possible to do with storing this information in the icons instead of the filesystem. (BTW OS X stores this info in hidden files too.)
    [ GK / LKA Team ]
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  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    @ Fab

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    I have a small problem here, when dragging a drawer over another drawer one can't see that this other drawer is the selected one.


    Fab, could you please have a look into this? as if one doesn't be carefull and trop's dragged objects over a drawer (though he wants to copy them not into the drawer but only to the new destination) then these get copied into this drawer as not selection is shown when moving the mouse/pointer with the dragged objects attached to it, over a drawer.

    Well I hope this is understandable but I made a screen grab (a bit lower in this threat) for this purpose.

    With best regards

    Christoph
  • »15.01.08 - 11:27
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
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    Yes, I agree with you. It is more than enough if file colors would appear only in Ambient and ASL requesters, and I think this two is possible to do with storing this information in the icons instead of the filesystem. (BTW OS X stores this info in hidden files too.)

    But do we really want to have hidden crap on every single device you handle with Ambient?

    I have had to clean up my PSP from useless hidden files way too often after temporarily plugging it into MacOS X system...
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    ToolsDaemon functionality in Ambient would rock. Amidock/panels/toolbars suck ;P
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  • rms
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    @ Crumb

    I agree with you. I used ToolsDaemon a lot under AOS 3.9 and created specific Menus, I found this great. In fact it's like Magellan's Custom Menu option.

    Regards

    Christoph
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  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    rms
    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    Hi all again,

    Does really nobody experience this problem I have here? Please ha a look at the screen grab.

    I use latest Ambient from 21.12.2007.

    Soemtimes but not alsways when I run e.g. FXPaint and YAM then YAM's appicon gets duplicated several times and is left, even after quitting YAM, on Ambient.

    I have to reset to get rid of this "left there" appicon.

    Does anyone else have this?

    Regards

    Christoph
  • »22.01.08 - 14:53
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dIGIMAN
    Posts: 273 from 2005/11/7
    Quote:


    rms wrote:
    Hi all again,

    Does really nobody experience this problem I have here? Please ha a look at the screen grab.

    I use latest Ambient from 21.12.2007.

    Soemtimes but not alsways when I run e.g. FXPaint and YAM then YAM's appicon gets duplicated several times and is left, even after quitting YAM, on Ambient.

    I have to reset to get rid of this "left there" appicon.

    Does anyone else have this?

    Regards

    Christoph



    I have this too, havent found a solution.
    On the other side i sometimes dont have any amirc appicon.
    Havent found the reason yet, why this happens

    [ Edited by dIGIMAN on 2008/1/22 17:31 ]
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  • tom
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 147 from 2003/7/22
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    Perhaps it is possible to use only text in Amidock? That will give a solution like in toolsdeamon. I used that progam for years in the older days. Icons look nice but if you have a lot of them you can become confused bij which program they belong.

    Reagards Tom
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  • rms
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 602 from 2004/11/27
    Hi,

    I stumbled aver a serial output and it seems that it's Ambient who generated it, so I post the log here, perhaps it helps any.

    Here a general question: when I drag&drop files e. g. pictures from one window to another, then it takes a very long time until the copy process begins. Often 20 secs and more. Now when I use the copy button (which I installed in the toolbar) this seems not to happen, the Ambient copy window pops up and copy starts right away.

    Could this be a bug? Any idea?

    Regards

    Christoph
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    tokai
    Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25
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    @tom

    could it perhaps be that you mean ToolManager and not ToolsDeamon? That one still works on MorphOS (just fetch version 3.1 from aminet) and allows you to configure text panels very easily.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 667 from 2004/11/3
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    Maybe I've missed something, but in recent Ambient builds you make custom pull-down menus in Ambient, just like with ToolsDaemon.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    sounds great. how?:)
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    Motosampy
    Posts: 199 from 2004/8/14
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    By creating an arexx script and running it. Read the changelog, there`s an example and short explanation.
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