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Andreas_Wolf

# 125
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 12150 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

> What about the final G5s? I know the 970FX doesn't have a hypervisor
> (apparently disabled from the Power 4 subset it was taken from)

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9326&forum=11&start=16
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=11993&forum=53&start=10

> QEMU-KVM already appears to be working on these.

Yes, that's because KVM-PR doesn't need a hypervisor to be present (or enabled) in the CPU.
»18.07.18 - 09:48

tlosmx

# 126
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

Couple of benchmark using Mac99 hw on threadripper Osx with a comparison.
Mac99 is the same vhw used for morphos

dnetc

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37346173_10212095374641228_6053393195507646464_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=4a9d7e0941b136188b5180f644550342&oe=5BD1B142

Geekbench 2

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37407785_10212095359680854_1078193360033808384_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=364ff2f13727457701f385827ba388b6&oe=5BE54FC5
»18.07.18 - 18:32

pampers

# 127
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26

From: Tczew, Poland

Can anyone post some quick tutorial how to run this on MacOS for lamers like me? ;)
MorphOS 3.x
»20.07.18 - 12:30

tlosmx

# 128
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

what version of macos do you have?
in case you are speaking about an old leopard or tiger (PPC) qemu dont build any more on it.
in case you are speaking about new x86_64 Osx . you need to install homebrew and start build there from source qemu (note you need to be little skilled about).
»20.07.18 - 14:43

Intuition

# 129

Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

pampers wrote:
Can anyone post some quick tutorial how to run this on MacOS for lamers like me? ;)

Code:


git clone https://github.com/qemu/qemu
cd qemu
./configure
make -j8
make install
qemu-img create -f qcow2 morphos.img 120G

# Boot from CD with HDD attached
qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 1536   -vga none -device sm501 -hda morphos.img -boot d   -prom-env 'boot-device=cd:,mac_ppc32boot.img' -bios openbios-qemu.elf -serial stdio   -net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user -cdrom morphos-3.11.iso

Install MorphOS using IWizard.

Code:


#Boot from HDD
qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 1536   -vga none -device sm501 -hda morphos.img -boot c   -prom-env 'boot-device=hd:,boot.img' -bios openbios-qemu.elf -serial stdio -net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user

1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9

»20.07.18 - 19:32

pampers

# 130
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1061 from 2009/2/26

From: Tczew, Poland

Cheers guys, will try that later on. Where do I get open bios files?
MorphOS 3.x
»21.07.18 - 08:39

waldiamiga

# 131
Butterfly

Posts: 94 from 2007/7/25

From: Krakow, Poland

Quote:

pampers wrote:
Cheers guys, will try that later on. Where do I get open bios files?

Here OpenBIOS.elf
Good site - Amiga like OSes on QEMU

MorphOS.pl
PowerBook G4 1.67GHz|2GB DDR2|ATI Radeon 9700M 128MB|SSD 80GB|TFT 17"|MorphOS 3.1x
Core i7 Notebook|WinUAE 3.x/AmigaOS4.1x & Icaros Desktop 2.x & QEmu 6.x.x
»21.07.18 - 09:03

Intuition

# 132
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Heads up for everyone, I seem to be getting a lot of corruption when using a qcow2 image.

Stuff copies and works fine but then after a reboot is corrupted.

Gonna try using a raw image instead.

edit:

Same with a raw image. Hmmmm.

[ Edited by Intuition 21.07.2018 - 13:26 ]
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»21.07.18 - 11:46

tlosmx

# 133
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

Quote:

pampers wrote:
Cheers guys, will try that later on. Where do I get open bios files?

use max 10GB img and use raw format
»21.07.18 - 13:47

Intuition

# 134
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

tlosmx wrote:
Quote:

pampers wrote:
Cheers guys, will try that later on. Where do I get open bios files?

use max 10GB img and use raw format

Even a 10GB image gives random corruption.
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»21.07.18 - 21:51

tlosmx

# 135
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

strange i dont have this issues
»22.07.18 - 13:23

Spectre660

# 136
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30

Floating point performance at 18% ? .
eh hem .
At least with regards tpo AmigaOS 4.1 Tabor looks to be a better option at this point.

[ Edited by Spectre660 23.07.2018 - 10:10 ]
»23.07.18 - 13:10

ASiegel

# 137
Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15

From: Central Europe

Quote:

Spectre660 wrote:
Floating point performance at 18% ? .
eh hem .
At least with regards tpo AmigaOS 4.1 Tabor looks to be a better option at this point.

No offence but "qemu is even slower at FPU operations" is nothing to brag about.
»23.07.18 - 14:05

tlosmx

# 138
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

Just for info ...
the qemu devs are working for have better fpu operations in qemu.
One option can be have the fpu operations in another cpu thread and not in the same thread where all the machine is emulated.

PS: The integer operations on my machine is more faster then a G4 1.67 Ghz it mean much more faster then a tabor one and i have only 31 threads more available for have 31 AmigaOs more at same time.

[ Edited by tlosmx 23.07.2018 - 15:35 ]
»23.07.18 - 14:32

Spectre660

# 139
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 275 from 2015/6/30

Any practical application that you can think of for 31 AmigaOs's at a time ?
Apart from maybe software development/debugging ?

Also what happens with floating point performance under KVM ?

Look at it from the point of view that AmigaOS 4.1 and MorphOS 3.xx still perform well on real Sam460's and X5000's as well as MorphOS on the other supported hardware .
Also Improvements in video performance are done (But not yet released) for AmigaOS 4.1 for the Sam460 and X5000 and likely to come for MorphOS. I expect AmigaOS on Tabor to squeeze out the maximum possible video performance too over time.
»23.07.18 - 18:52

waldiamiga

# 140
Butterfly

Posts: 94 from 2007/7/25

From: Krakow, Poland
Someone will help, the system has been able to be installed now to boot from the disk.

Code:
```
qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 1024 -device sm501  -boot d -prom-env "boot-device=hd:,mac_ppc32boot.img" -bios openbios-qemu.elf -vga none -device ide-hd,drive=hd-drive,bus=ide.0 -drive file="morphos.img",if=none,id=hd-drive,format=raw -net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user
```
MorphOS.pl
PowerBook G4 1.67GHz|2GB DDR2|ATI Radeon 9700M 128MB|SSD 80GB|TFT 17"|MorphOS 3.1x
Core i7 Notebook|WinUAE 3.x/AmigaOS4.1x & Icaros Desktop 2.x & QEmu 6.x.x
»23.07.18 - 20:50

tlosmx

# 141
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

Quote:

Also what happens with floating point performance under KVM ?

threadripper vs g5 quad in kvm on Mac99 qemu
https://scontent.fnap1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27540591_10211001296249952_3934778983080779619_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=523c1f6cddb62032b5879224613d210d&oe=5BBE5122
»23.07.18 - 23:06

tlosmx

# 142
Butterfly

Posts: 80 from 2017/9/10

Guys yesterday finally i was testing the first heavy program inside QMos it was FPSE result it was running fast and smooth at 640x480 in software rendering with spu null.
»25.07.18 - 14:06

Kronos

# 143

Moderator

Posts: 2323 from 2003/2/24

Quote:

waldiamiga wrote:

Code:

qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 1024 -device sm501  -boot d -prom-env "boot-device=hd:,mac_ppc32boot.img" -bios openbios-qemu.elf -vga none -device ide-hd,drive=hd-drive,bus=ide.0 -drive file="morphos.img",if=none,id=hd-drive,format=raw -net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user

Tried under OSX complains bout " Property '.via' not found", leaving that out will start QEMU but fails to boot.

»27.07.18 - 13:58

Jim

# 144
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28

From: Delaware, USA

Quote:

tlosmx wrote:

Quote:

Also what happens with floating point performance under KVM ?

threadripper vs g5 quad in kvm on Mac99 qemu
https://scontent.fnap1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27540591_10211001296249952_3934778983080779619_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=523c1f6cddb62032b5879224613d210d&oe=5BBE5122

Hmm, pretty good. And we are comparing a 2.5 GHz PPC to a higher clocked X64 cpu.
Bench averages look good, and the fpu scores clearly favor kvm/PPC.

If this was possible under Power 9, all the scores would favor Power/kvm.
And even on a 970FX it looks good.

No matter how hard you try to push Tabor, this is a better solution that would provide for multiple sessions with more power and a fully compatible standard fpu with AltiVec/VMX instructions.

What's more, the price of a Quad G5 is comparable (or lower) than a Tabor motherboard.
Add better performance under Linux, the ability to run OSX or BSD, and I know what platform I prefer.
"Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
»27.07.18 - 21:16

rushpat

# 145
Just looking around

Posts: 6 from 2017/2/2

Hey, thanks for all the help. When using -net user on the qemu command line, how do you set up the networking on the MorphOS preferences and on the host system to communication and let the MorphOS network traffic flow through?

Thanks!
»13.08.18 - 02:37

Intuition

# 146
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

rushpat wrote:
Hey, thanks for all the help. When using -net user on the qemu command line, how do you set up the networking on the MorphOS preferences and on the host system to communication and let the MorphOS network traffic flow through?

Thanks!

You can't from an installed image it doesn't work.

Only from the live CD.
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»13.08.18 - 10:52

terminills

# 147
Butterfly

Posts: 100 from 2012/3/12

Quote:

Intuition wrote:
Quote:

rushpat wrote:
Hey, thanks for all the help. When using -net user on the qemu command line, how do you set up the networking on the MorphOS preferences and on the host system to communication and let the MorphOS network traffic flow through?

Thanks!

You can't from an installed image it doesn't work.

Only from the live CD.

Not true, It's just not straight forward. Here's the command line I use for networking and a physical drive.

qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 2048 -device sm501 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive2,index=0,media=disk,driver=raw -net none -netdev user,id=network01 -device sungem,netdev=network01 -vga none -boot d -prom-env "boot-device=hd:,\boot.img" -bios openbios-qemu.ELF -serial stdio

morphos qemu
»27.12.18 - 17:41

Intuition

# 148
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1110 from 2013/5/24

From: Nederland

Quote:

terminills wrote:
Quote:

Intuition wrote:
Quote:

rushpat wrote:
Hey, thanks for all the help. When using -net user on the qemu command line, how do you set up the networking on the MorphOS preferences and on the host system to communication and let the MorphOS network traffic flow through?

Thanks!

You can't from an installed image it doesn't work.

Only from the live CD.

Not true, It's just not straight forward. Here's the command line I use for networking and a physical drive.

qemu-system-ppc -machine mac99,via=pmu -m 2048 -device sm501 -drive file=\\.\PhysicalDrive2,index=0,media=disk,driver=raw -net none -netdev user,id=network01 -device sungem,netdev=network01 -vga none -boot d -prom-env "boot-device=hd:,\boot.img" -bios openbios-qemu.ELF -serial stdio

morphos qemu

Phwoarr!!! :D
1.67GHz 15" PowerBook G4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Radeon 9700M Pro, 64GB SSD, MorphOS 3.15

2.7GHz DP G5, 4GB RAM, 512MB Radeon X1950 Pro, 500GB SSHD, MorphOS 3.9
»28.12.18 - 10:59

Andreas_Wolf

# 149
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 12150 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

> bigfoot made some patches for qemu to make it emulate the Pegasos2.

Seems like the guy who created the QEMU Sam460 emulation for running OS4 and who enhanced the QEMU mac99 emulation for running MorphOS will have a go at another project:

"due Book3E/Book3S ppc arch difference, Zoltan is looking inside Pegasos 2 emulation too. He is only at first steps, and he still needs some emulated chipset documentation."
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=43042&forum=33#820048
»05.01.19 - 08:56