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Some MorphOS 2.0 questions..

XzIt

# 1
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 250 from 2005/1/19

From: Norway

I started this baby up this morning and loved what i have seen soo far.
but as i was using it, thought of a few things i have seen that i don't know how to do..

The Early Boot meu? how do i get it to up??? old amiga style did't work..

The 3D Cube thing, when switching screens, exstra prog?

that all, thx

X
»01.07.08 - 09:07

tokai

# 2
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1289 from 2003/2/25

From: binaryriot

Bootmenu:
When the little /|\-/|\-... circle thing starts spinning: Hit F1 key and keep it pressed. Should bring up the bootmenu. Mouse key should work the same way. Alternativelly you can specify the BM or BootMenu parameter after boot.img in OFW... which triggers it too.

The 3D Cube thing (as said many times in past already;) is an extra application and will be releases by its author (kiero), when he thinks its releasable/ ready/ etc.

regards,
tokai
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»01.07.08 - 09:18

Bladerunner

# 3
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19

Well, in Linux World they would probably say:
RTFM!!!

However, as I am a nice person, I quote from the readme:

Quote:

New boot options:
-----------------
BD=BootDevice/K - Boot from given device. Example:
boot .. bootdevice=SDH2

The boot menu does not allow changes to the mount
parameters for technical reasons, so you need to use
this parameter instead.

BM=BootMenu/S - Enter bootmenu without user intervention.

3D=Use3DLayers/S - Enable 3D accelerated layers, giving extra speed and
real transparency.
NOTE: 128MB graphics card is highly recommended!

SML=SafeMemLists/S - Use old MorphOS 1.x-style memory system with extra
safety checks. This could be useful for debugging
some buggy applications for example. SML is much
slower than the new MorphOS 2 memory system however.

PC=PreloadCmd/K - Command(s) to execute before startup-sequence. Multiple
commands can be given separated by a *N. Examples:
boot ... PC="echo *"Hello, world*""
boot ... PC="dir sys:*Nquit"

I would assume that the 3d Switch is needed, however since I am currently not in front of my Peg, I can`t verify this.

For the bootmenu, as stated in the release notes, you have to press F1 or left mousbutton (or use the bootmenu switch)

Hope that helped

Edit
Ok, Tokai was faster, with a bit more precise informations ;)
However, it is nevertheless a good Idea to read the documentation ;)

[ Edited by Bladerunner on 2008/7/1 10:22 ]
»01.07.08 - 09:20

ThePlayer

# 4
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24

From: Hamburg/Germany

And where do i have to type these options?
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»01.07.08 - 09:44

Bladerunner

# 5
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19

You mean the bootparameters?
They are just that, bootparameters.
You can either append them when booting manually, but most likely you will add them to your OF bootmenu. (IIRC the example of script of the of bootmenu creator had allready an entry with options for morphOS)
»01.07.08 - 09:50

ThePlayer

# 6
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24

From: Hamburg/Germany

This is my bootparameters: /pci/ide/disk@0,0:0 boot.img ramdebug edebugflags=

If i type the Layers3D like that:
/pci/ide/disk@0,0:0 boot.img 3D=Use3DLayers/S ramdebug edebugflags=

it won't start.

EDIT: Got it it's just: boot.img 3D ramdebug edebugflags

[ Edited by ThePlayer on 2008/7/1 12:52 ]
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»01.07.08 - 10:10

XzIt

# 7
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 250 from 2005/1/19

From: Norway

btw, i don't use any parameters for booting of MorphOS.
Just use "boot hd:0 boot.img", should i add some parameters too??

one more thing, how do i get rid of the annyoing Register window that slows down my System??

thanks again.

X
»01.07.08 - 15:34

SoundSquare

# 8
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1

From: Paris, France

Quote:

one more thing, how do i get rid of the annyoing Register window that slows down my System??

register it. If you're rich enough.
»01.07.08 - 15:44

keropi

# 9
Acolyte of the Butterfly

Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11

From: Ioannina , Greece

can someone remind me the OFW auto-boot command so I can change it to include the 3D option?
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»01.07.08 - 15:48

Jambalah

# 10
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30

From: Roma, Italy

@ keropi

1- setenv boot-file boot.img ramdebug (It becomes: boot.img 3D ramdebug)
2- setenv boot-device /pci/ide/disk@... (unit in wich boot.img is)
3- setenv auto-boot-timeout 3000 (three seconds to go... or whatever you like)
4- setenv auto-boot? true

Done!
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»01.07.08 - 16:53

keropi

# 11
Acolyte of the Butterfly

Posts: 131 from 2006/11/11

From: Ioannina , Greece

MEGA-THANKS Jambalah !!!!
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»01.07.08 - 20:11

XzIt

# 12
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 250 from 2005/1/19

From: Norway

thx, but does not morphos 1.4.5 or 2.0 support 1.gigabyte of ram???
can't get it to start, when 2x 512 meg.. help

X
»01.07.08 - 20:33

magnetic

# 13
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1

From: Los Angeles

I'm running morph on my peg2 with 1gb of Nanya ram np
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»01.07.08 - 20:41

ThePlayer

# 14
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24

From: Hamburg/Germany

Is somebody running wetterNG or MorphosExecMonitor under MOS2 without Problems?
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»01.07.08 - 22:21

Korni

# 15
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 472 from 2006/2/23

From: the Planet of ...

@tokai

Here it's only _ :). Bootmenu works ok invoked by F1 or param, i can't bring it with mouse keys through.

@bladerunner

2D layers are great too :).
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»01.07.08 - 22:53

magnetic

# 16
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1

From: Los Angeles

Hi guys

Well I enabled 3d in the boot parameters... how do I get the tranparency/3d layers look? Where is the setting?

tia

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»01.07.08 - 23:50

ThePlayer

# 17
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1069 from 2003/3/24

From: Hamburg/Germany

The transparancy is a commodity that is not bundeld with M2 and it depands on if the Coder is willing to release it
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»02.07.08 - 08:31

dake

# 18
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 204 from 2007/9/14

From: The building p...

First of all im happy Morphos 2.0 is out, and i will register it, its worth the money.
But there are some disapointments:
1: Video thumbnail, ok this will be an update.
2: Transparency, shit i thought this was included.
3: 3D Cube, damn this is not included either:(
This 3 things i hoped to play with alot, its so COOL.
Now i had to drink beer and cry for 5minits...
Hopefully we will recieve this things soon:)
»02.07.08 - 10:44

magnetic

# 19
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1

From: Los Angeles

Well cube is out soon, I just cant figure out how to ENABLE transparency.
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»02.07.08 - 10:47

sadddam

# 20
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 423 from 2005/4/9

From: magyarorszag/h...

magnetic, it was told 2 posts before, that plender (the tool for transparency) is NOT included in the release. its the same issue as with the cube: it will come later by its coder.

[ Edited by sadddam on 2008/7/2 12:27 ]
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»02.07.08 - 11:27

jacadcaps

# 21
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5

From: Canada

Windows aren't and won't be "transparent" by default. It's for the application's author to implement/enable that. Ultragelb's plender is a funny patch that lets you override that and that's what the new features were usually demoed with. It's not part of the OS though.
»02.07.08 - 11:40

kiero

# 22
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 129 from 2003/2/28

i already 'released' it yestarday. posted link to #morphos. anyway, it's on http://kiero.binaryriot.org/scube.lha

Read included readme before trying it.
»02.07.08 - 13:04

Jambalah

# 23
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30

From: Roma, Italy

I tried scube.... Ehm I'm without words....
...well.... Thanks kiero, really GOOD work!!!
THX THX THX!!!! ;)
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»02.07.08 - 13:16

sadddam

# 24
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 423 from 2005/4/9

From: magyarorszag/h...

thanks kiero!
its really impressive and - against the readme - useful!

could you make the shortcuts and keybindings configurable? + will that be possible to use the mouse only (press the 3rd button to enter cube and rotate while its pressed, or rotate cube with mousewheel)?

i put the release info in the news section of pegasos.hu, if you dont mind.
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»02.07.08 - 13:48

Piru

# 25
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24

From: finland, the l...

Yeah, I have to agree that transparency shouldn't be enabled by default. It looks quite fancy and it's fun to impress your friends with, but to actually have it enabled for any serious work.. personally I think I'll keep the windows solid Also, 3dlayers is much more than just "transparent windows". It actually is a totally new way to handle clipping and display composition. In certain cases it's hundred of times faster than the old layers (well ok, you really need to test the worst case scenarios there ). Basically the neat tricks such as transparency are a byproduct (though I bet jacadcaps also had transparency in mind when he deviced the cunning plan...)

Regardless, the actual OS facilities that allow these new nice tricks are there, so as soon as the apps are released, you will be ready to go. Cube is already out, so have fun.
»02.07.08 - 14:01